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Are You Right?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by SalixIncendium, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium सच्चितानन्द
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    Consider religion, politics, philosophy, morals, ethics, or whatever. How do you know you are right and another is wrong?

    Is there truly a right or a wrong? Or are right and wrong merely human constructs to assert perspective?

    Thoughts?
     
  2. The Reverend Bob

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    Are you asking if there is an objective principle to determine whether one's actions and behaviors can be construed as right or wrong?
     
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  3. SalixIncendium

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    Yes. This is precisely what I'm asking.
     
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    I am right. Glad to have cleared that up for you.
     
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  5. Curious George

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    Logic
    I think we can use logic to create an internally consistent view of right and wrong. With this view we can evaluate whether one is right or wrong.
     
  6. The Reverend Bob

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    I am of the opinion that yes indeed that there is an objective principle that one can use to determine whether their own (I must their own) actions are right or wrong.
     
  7. SalixIncendium

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    Even if we use logic or ligic, who is to say whose logic (or ligic) is objectively more correct?
     
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  8. SalixIncendium

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    What is this objective principle?
     
  9. Curious George

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    Well you can appeal to that if you wish, but it doesn't bode well for you as doing so contradicts yourself.
     
  10. Vinayaka

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    I'm wrong. But you already knew that.
     
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  11. SalixIncendium

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    But you didn't answer the question. You say that the use of logic can determine if one is right or wrong. I'm not understanding how. In its simplest form, it's just assertion of perspective.
     
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    Yes, as is evidenced in certain threads, we usually are.
     
  13. Hubert Farnsworth

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    There is no truth. Oh...oops, I just made a truth claim by stating that it is a truth that there is no truth, so if there is no truth, then there is truth. So truth must exist.
     
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    ...said the Cretan.......:D
     
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    Examine yourself if your motives are pure and fit the Golden Rule....
     
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    It is in two parts. First when it comes to wrong. You have to ask yourself is this action or behavior going to cause any harm or hurt to myself and /or to any innocent beings in the present or future? If you answered in the positive, then maybe in fact your action or behavior is in fact wrong.
    Why such an easy criteria to determine the wrongness of an action or behavior? Because doing evil is easy.

    Now determining what is right and good is much, much more complex.
     
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    I heard Cretans always lie.
     
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    I'm wrong about many things, for which I repent and am often humbled.
     
  19. SalixIncendium

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    So the Golden Rule is right and pure? It's mankind's objective principle?
     
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    I
    did not find any better.
     
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