Exactly. And it is possible that it will have individual rights in the future.It is a FUTURE individual, I was fa fetus once, l presume you too
You asked what the difference was. That is the difference.
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Exactly. And it is possible that it will have individual rights in the future.It is a FUTURE individual, I was fa fetus once, l presume you too
Our lives include fetus stage, we CANNOT bypass it, it is one set.Exactly. And it is possible that it will have individual rights in the future.
You asked what the difference was. That is the difference.
Yes that is correct. We went through a stage when we were not individuals and so did not have individual rights.Our lives include fetus stage, we CANNOT bypass it, it is one set.
That doesn't qualify it being a person though. A 6 week fetus develops human characteristics but it does not mean it is a person. I can build a robot with appendages like that of a human doesn't make it human. See: personhood
So if I had a 12 year-old daughter who was raped and ends up pregnant she should go through the secondary traumatic experience of giving birth to a child out of non-consensual sex because that child has a right to live?
Not always
Fetus does not belong to mother, people are brainwashed, it does not matter when you terminate human life...Yes that is correct. We went through a stage when we were not individuals and so did not have individual rights.
Then we became children and had certain individual rights but still did not have all the rights of an adults.
And then we became adults, and had all the rights of an adults individual.
I am not disagreeing with anything you are saying.
Yes that is correct. We went through a stage when we were not individuals and so did not have individual rights.
Then we became children and had certain individual rights but still did not have all the rights of an adults.
And then we became adults, and had all the rights of an adults individual.
We cannot bypass childhood. That does not mean 2 year old children should be allowed to vote , or drive cars.
If there is a way to abort without causing undo pain to the fetus or endangering the mother, then yes, those steps should be taken.Do you believe a well-developed fetus, which senses pain, should at least have animal rights to be treated humanely rather than tortured?
It's murder, but not of a live person, only of the idea of a person who may someday be.If it is murder, we have an obligation to stop it. (It's against the law)
If it's not then we have an obligation to affirm it. (It's a constitutional right)
So, I will ask again, is it murder? And why or why not?
Murder of an idea?It's murder, but not of a live person, only of the idea of a person who may someday be.
If there is a way to abort without causing undo pain to the fetus or endangering the mother, then yes, those steps should be taken.
Different trope.Murder of an idea?
Is this like character assassination?
As I said, if there was a safe way to prevent pain for the fetus without undo risk to the mother I would support that. But I still support the mother’s right to choose.Fortunately, ca. 99.99 percent of abortions are done before the third trimester when the fetus apparently becomes well-developed enough to feel pain. However, most of us Pro-Life supporters are staunchly opposed to the 0.01 percent of abortions done when a human fetus is well-developed enough to sense pain.
Which one?The Creator.
I doubt microbes sense pain; however, a 24 week old human fetus arguably might be able to sense pain. I don't believe aborted fetuses younger than 24 weeks of age sense pain, so I'd have no qualms about first trimester or early second trimester abortions
Athena leaped out of Zeus' skull as a full adult.Do you know anyone who 'skipped ' this initial stage of development of the future born human?
Plenty. Not every termination of a human life can be construed as murder.What is the difference its just terminating a human life?
Which one?
The only creator that count when it comes to this subject is the mother of the fetus and it is only she that confers personhood and rights to the fetus. The fetus is given proxy rights by the mother alone because it is dependent upon her alone. If she says it is a person then it is a person, if she says it is not then it is not. She is sole arbiter of rights when it comes to the fetus!There is only one. The rest are satan in disguise.