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Undisputedly true. 20th century Communism is ample evidence of that.Atheists can still believe in a higher purpose they would sacrifice their lives for and/or kill others for it.
What is the meaning or purpose of life? I do not know, but I know that an atheist who commits his or her life to helping others is behaving far less selfishly than a theist who commits his or her life to getting into heaven.
Note: I am not saying all theists selfishly commit their lives to getting into heaven, nor am I saying all atheists selflessly commit their lives to serving others. D'uh.
I am thinking selfishness and trying to get into heaven are a contradiction in theist beliefs.I am not saying all theists selfishly commit their lives to getting into heaven
Is this about Christians again? Because some of us theists are actually trying to get to heaven by doing good deeds. Though, when an atheist does something good he frequently praises himself for it and thinks that he did it.
I think you're conflating motive with result.What is the meaning or purpose of life? I do not know, but I know that an atheist who commits his or her life to helping others is behaving far less selfishly than a theist who commits his or her life to getting into heaven.
An atheist who commits his or her life to helping others could still have ulterior motives.What is the meaning or purpose of life? I do not know, but I know that an atheist who commits his or her life to helping others is behaving far less selfishly than a theist who commits his or her life to getting into heaven.
An atheist who commits his or her life to helping others could still have ulterior motives.
An atheist who commits his or her life to helping others could still have ulterior motives.
We do things to ourselves and to other people. We can affect another person's heart if they let us. So if Heaven is helping someone do what's right, I would only mess with it if you think you can motivate them better. There is also the concept of the lotus; a person can grow up in a swamp and be a beautiful flower. An atheist can be a beautiful person.What is the meaning or purpose of life? I do not know, but I know that an atheist who commits his or her life to helping others is behaving far less selfishly than a theist who commits his or her life to getting into heaven.
Note: I am not saying all theists selfishly commit their lives to getting into heaven, nor am I saying all atheists selflessly commit their lives to serving others. D'uh.
Being rich?
So are you an atheist now?Is this about Christians again? Because some of us theists are actually trying to get to heaven by doing good deeds. Though, when an atheist does something good he frequently praises himself for it and thinks that he did it.
What comparable motive to "I want to get a divine reward" would you say an atheist could have and would that motive be incompatible with "I want to get a divine reward"?An atheist who commits his or her life to helping others could still have ulterior motives.
Of course. What is also true is that I've participated in food drives. soup kitchens, and overnight shelters for many, many years and I do not recall meeting a single Christian who seemed primarily motivated by the promise of some heavenly reward.True, but so is the converse.
What is the meaning or purpose of life? I do not know, but I know that an atheist who commits his or her life to helping others is behaving far less selfishly than a theist who commits his or her life to getting into heaven.
Note: I am not saying all theists selfishly commit their lives to getting into heaven, nor am I saying all atheists selflessly commit their lives to serving others. D'uh.
Would you say it's more of a difficult effort or simple pleasure to achieve liberation..? Or does it somehow balance?
Selfless Atheism vs Selfish TheismWhat is the meaning or purpose of life?