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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Willamena, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Marcion

    Marcion Tantra-Yoga Universalist

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    If you think everthing is classified by beliefs only, then you would be right. But spirituality is about much more than beliefs.
     
  2. shunyadragon

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    My objection is the artificial distinction and not whether everything is beliefs, and I have not concluded that 'everything is beliefs only.'
     
  3. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Religion is learned, not instinctive.
     
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  4. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    i like that
     
  5. shunyadragon

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    I consider 'religion' neither. Religion si simply what people believe, not believe or could care less, whether organized, disorganized, sanforized, digitized, mortified, or what ever.
     
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    It is said that Vedas are of no use to one who is one with God. Similarly, religion is useless for the ignorant. Religion is for people like me who vacillate.
     
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  7. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Uhhh...by definition you have agreed to the terms of the group, even if de facto. Usually meet at a given place and time, and there is certain decorum that is followed, even if it's unspoken. If you have an epiphany that doesn't reflect the group mentality, you may be ostracized. You are allowing your will to be shaped and defined in most cases by the group.
     
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  8. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Good example. Maybe not a long-term fellowship, but a fellowship all the same....
     
  9. Quintessence

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    Not inherently, no. Maybe in some religions. This certainly isn't the case for mine. Speaking of which...




    Because merely "believing in" one's gods is armchair theism and of little to no value. The way of life that is religion is all-encompassing, providing mythos (story) and ritual (action) that articulate values in a way that usually connects you with a broader community.

    Then again, I really don't know what people mean by "personal relationship." Makes no sense to add the word "personal" in front of that considering all relationships you as an individual have with something else are personal. :shrug:
     
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  10. Tumah

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    For three months when I was working in a different city, I regularly joined a group for services. The group was comprised of people of various backgrounds and levels of religiosity and observance. We spoke not at all and I have no idea what their positions are about anything other than coming to the afternoon services on a daily basis, which I only assume they were agreeable to, because they were actually there. Except for one who I actually worked with, I did not see any of them outside those 20 minutes. Was there a group mentality there any greater than a group of people watching a concert?
     
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    Religion is a man made venture and a big money maker, controls people, and keeps them in the baby stage. I should add that Western Christianity is what I'm familiar with in this regard.
     
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    Which God? What is God's name? Has this God told you how to pray to them to see healings/miracles? Does joining a religion increase your God power and access since you are in community with others? Does it help for marriage and children, so that the family is on the same God page?

    The real question: Which religion offers the highest logic, most proof?
     
  13. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Why couldn't you have attended by yourself with no one else there? And why that particular time and place? Why did you even need a group to experience your faith and devotion? Do you believe God would think less of you if you did not join in any group setting?
     
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    If there was no one available, I would have. Would you prefer a concert where there's no one else in the room?
     
  15. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Absolutely!. I don't need the interaction of others to enjoy and/or experience myself.
     
  16. Marcion

    Marcion Tantra-Yoga Universalist

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    How are the distinctions made 'artificial'? I think they make perfect sense.
    Perhaps some of them could have been more explicit, but the general contrast works well and reflects real differences between spiritual cults and religions.
    There will of course be hybrid paths, it's more of a spectrum.
     
  17. shunyadragon

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    To you , ah . . . maybe, but to the many diverse conflicting religious beliefs and human perspectives no. I have met Jews, JWs, Muslims, and others that deny their belief is religion, but of course, describe what others believe is religion.

    The distinction is how humans for their own comfort define what they believe as opposed to what others believe.

    You just confirmed what I posted.
     
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  18. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    To an extent, you are answering your own question.

    Religion has many purposes. And although many of them use god-belief as a pretext or an ice-breaker, very few of them have much to actually do with that belief.

    For the most part, religion is about telling things to other people for various purposes.
     
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    Yes advanced isnt correct.
     
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    I’m just a tiny ant, a drop in the ocean.
     
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