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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Willamena, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. AT-AT

    AT-AT Well-Known Member

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    I finally figured out what direction I should go, when I studied the revelations of the Baha'i faith
    I did find this helpful, even if some may argue it's "rhetoric":

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  2. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    So how can one distinguish an "advanced" soul from a "non-advanced" soul?
     
  3. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    How do you distinguish a "God chosen Messenger" from a con-man or someone who's just mistaken?
     
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  4. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    Is there perhaps a better and more objective method that doesn't depend on someone's own subjective and personal whims?
     
  5. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    "I believe because I believe, as a result of believing"
     
  6. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    So was JFK a "god chosen messenger" because he defused the whole Cuba missile thingy?
     
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    I imagine so.

    I imagine so.
     
  8. siti

    siti Well-Known Member

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    By God! There must have been millions of 'em by now!
     
  9. Tumah

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    I'm not sure I understand how doing things as a group directly relates to being told by others what to do.
     
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    If a god exists it shouldn't expect to be worshipped. Anyone or anything expecting people to bow down before them is too far up their own backside for their own good. There is a certain human who thinks he is god and other world leaders should worship the ground on which he walks!:rolleyes:
     
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    Religions are collections of platitudes, traditions, and practices that help people to hold onto and maintain their relationship with their God, and to live by it in their actual lives.
     
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    Can you offer an example or two to illustrate how they are influenced?
     
  13. Lionel Refson

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    Completely disagree. Why would an All-Seeing God pick a messenger that would further split humanity. Perhaps God could not see that God's messenger would only achieve further divisiveness??
     
  14. shunyadragon

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    It depends on what you define as religion. It is a matter of fact of human nature that what we call 'religion' has been a part of the culture of humanity since any record and archaeological evidence going back to before the Neanderthals. Just because some do not believe in God(s), does not negate the fact that religion is an intimate part of the nature of being human. You can present a case that in reality God(s) do not exist, and 'religions' are simply a natural part of human evolution, or believe that God(s) exist, but neither view negates the fact of the nature of being human with or without the belief in God(s).

    The evidence indicates that beliefs we call religions involve more than that regardless of whether God(s) exist or not. Some religions, of course do not involve the belief in God(s).
     
  15. shunyadragon

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    Need? It is a matter of fact that beliefs are a part of the human nature. The question of need or no need is a human anecdotal subjective determination. If your religion believes there is a need, ok that belief system believes it is so. If your religion believes that are no God(s) and there is no need, ok that belief system believes this is so.

    I believe your questions are superficial and reflect your personal belief only, and do not consider the depth of the human nature of 'beliefs' throughout human history.
     
  16. SalixIncendium

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    These two statement appear contradictory.

    If God is unknowable, how can a messenger know God?
     
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  17. shunyadragon

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    I consider this arbitrary classification and definition as 'rhetoric' focused on 'someone' trying to define their belief by artificially partitioning their belief separate form other beliefs.
     
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    thank you. where ever I go there I AM


    Ezek 48:35 KJV It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there.
     
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  19. Jedster

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    eeeer, possibly because the messenger said so in the writings !?!
    It's a bit like 'the book is true because it says so in the book'.

    IMO, it is better to seek one's own experience, rather than rely on hearsay.
     
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  20. Lionel Refson

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    Time to tear up the crusty old books and just be with God and not before time. God went out of God's way to say something to us all as represented by the sons of Noah ie all the peoples of the world.
    "Be fruitful and multiply" Nothing else matters. there is no sin, there is no redemption, There IS human wickedness but as God said Gen 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man through man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God He made man.
    This means that we are to deal with any wickedness ourselves.
     
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