Where Do You Put Your Faith?

[YoursTrue]

And look at the credentials of the new House Speaker Mike Johnson as just one example: Mike Johnson (Louisiana politician) - Wikipedia

Many people mouth the words spoken by Jesus which says in part, Let your kingdom come...

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes there are scientists who believe things without evidence; heck there are even scientists who believe in God. Everything a scientist does is not related to science. When a scientist believe things without evidence, they are not claiming it to be a scientific theory, it's just their belief.

Lots of people cry when men, women and children are killed with weapons designed by scientists to kill en masse.

 

[Little Dragon]

Like it or not, current world events demonstrate/evidence/show/prove that what the Bible says is TRUE. It doesn't matter how you define it. Now realize you did not have to be born, that was a meeting of two cells. Most people run for cover if they think they will be hurt. What Jesus said is true. As many people know the prayer Jesus told his disciples to pray for. Sometimes called the Lord's Prayer. Part of that says, "Let your kingdom come.. "

Careful, sounds like a violation of rule 8. There are some snitches around..

I have not been shown anything that suggests that there is the slightest truth in any of that paragraph. I also sincerely hope you don't get your wish for the world to be destroyed and everyone, killed, to face judgement.

 

[Little Dragon]

Lots of people cry when men, women and children are killed with weapons designed by scientists to kill en masse.

They cry tears of joy too, when scientists cure their kids of cancer.

Scientists don't determine how a science or technology is used...governments do.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

My negative emotional bias, also stems from my outrage. My response to the actions of Christians acting in the name of their God. The genocide, the persecution, the ethnic cleansing, the misogyny, the lies, the anti intellectualism, the controlling behaviour and I could go on for some time.

Yep, many have established a heinous reputation!

But are they really following Jesus, living by his standards (John 13:35; Matthew 5:44)?

No.
That’s not Jesus’ fault, is it?
According to the prophecy @ Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus himself denies them.

 

[Little Dragon]

No.
That’s not Jesus’ fault, is it?
According to the prophecy @ Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus himself denies them.

Good. Then I hope he also corrects them.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Good. Then I hope he also corrects them.

He will.

They’ve besmirched His name for way too long!
(I almost added “…and His Father’s name…” But then thinking about it,
Christendom has tried to hide God’s name (Yahweh / Jehovah), so His name has been kept free from reproach, for the most part. So it’s all been put on Jesus… he’s the main ‘God’ of their ‘trinity.’)


In another post, you mentioned that @YoursTrue believes in ‘world destruction’.
What do you think that entails?

 

[Little Dragon]

In another post, you mentioned that @YoursTrue believes in ‘world destruction’.
What do you that entails?

The annihilation of human civilization, possibly the destruction of planet earth itself. Certainly the death of all human and possibly animal and plant life.
Unacceptable outcomes for this little dragon.

 

[metis]

Many people mouth the words spoken by Jesus which says in part, Let your kingdom come...

As Gandhi said: "To cooperate with evil is evil". IOW, you can't have it both ways.

 

[YoursTrue]

He will.

They’ve besmirched His name for way too long!
(I almost added “…and His Father’s name…” But then thinking about it,
Christendom has tried to hide God’s name (Yahweh / Jehovah), so His name has been kept free from reproach, for the most part. So it’s all been put on Jesus… he’s the main ‘God’ of their ‘trinity.’)


In another post, you mentioned that @YoursTrue believes in ‘world destruction’.
What do you think that entails?

Yes, many have a million different excuses as to why they don't/won't use the divine Name of the Almighty God. That's up to them. Now that you mention the above, since they KNOW they are besmirching God's Name YHWH or Jehovah as we aptly say in English they cannot bring themselves to use it.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

The annihilation of human civilization, possibly the destruction of planet earth itself. Certainly the death of all human and possibly animal and plant life.
Unacceptable outcomes for this little dragon.

Yes, I thought so.

But that’s not what @YoursTrue meant. Right, YT?

I’ll let them respond (since it wasn’t my comment.)

 

[YoursTrue]

As Gandhi said: "To cooperate with evil is evil". IOW, you can't have it both ways.

You kind of got it. Another good reason why Jesus offered the prayer known as the "Lord's Prayer." I don't know what translation you use, whether thee or thou, but when Jesus said "Let your kingdom come," I'm sure you remember the rest of the prayer. Many churches say it again and again but really don't know what it means.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes, I thought so.

But that’s not what @YoursTrue meant. Right, YT?

I’ll let them respond (since it wasn’t my comment.)

That's ok, I'm happy to hear your comment. Just like Jesus said, there is an END coming but it's not the end of life on the earth as you know. "Let your kingdom come...let your will be done on the earth as in heaven."

 

[Little Dragon]

Yes, I thought so.

But that’s not what @YoursTrue meant. Right, YT?

I’ll let them respond (since it wasn’t my comment.)

You can give your own spin or whatever, I don't object.

 

[metis]

Yes, many have a million different excuses as to why they don't/won't use the divine Name of the Almighty God. That's up to them. Now that you mention the above, since they KNOW they are besmirching God's Name YHWH or Jehovah as we aptly say in English they cannot bring themselves to use it.

There were numerous names for YHWH used in Torah, so were the author's "besmirching God's name"?

 

[YoursTrue]

The annihilation of human civilization, possibly the destruction of planet earth itself. Certainly the death of all human and possibly animal and plant life.
Unacceptable outcomes for this little dragon.

It is easy to 'see' now that mankind is kind of not on its own side, by that meaning populations and individuals willfully are at the brink, ready to destroy one another and the earth, either crazily or by persuasion or by force and more, and the Bible foretells more to come. But then a restoration of mankind. Before it's "all gone."

 

[YoursTrue]

There were numerous names for YHWH used in Torah, so were the author's "besmirching God's name"?

Um...I know you're the scholar, but the divine name in the form of the Tetra (or, as it is more technically known, the Tetragrammaton) is in the Bible more than any other name. But you knew that, right? You're gonna keep fighting to the end is my thought. May not be true though. Maybe there will be a surprise. But it seems that way. (As time "marches on.")

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Now that you mention the above, since they KNOW they are besmirching God's Name YHWH or Jehovah…

But in their eyes, Jesus is Yahweh.

So really, they don’t know it.

By Christendom supporting the Jewish superstition that resulted in taking God’s Name out of the Bible, it’s actually had an unwitting effect of keeping God’s Name clear of Christendom’s false doctrines…. So Jesus, to them, is their god that ‘burns people in hellfire,’ not Jehovah.

Such teachings still paint God as an evil Being, no matter what name is used.
So Jehovah, through His son Jesus as king, will straighten “all things” out.
Ephesians 1:9,10….
“It is according to his [God’s] good pleasure that he himself purposed for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, to gather all things together in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth.”

1 John 3:8….
“The Son of God” will “break up the works of the Devil.”

So long, have a good day.

 

[Little Dragon]

It is easy to 'see' now that mankind is kind of not on its own side, by that meaning populations and individuals willfully are at the brink, ready to destroy one another and the earth, either crazily or by persuasion or by force and more, and the Bible foretells more to come. But then a restoration of mankind. Before it's "all gone."

Yeah sounds too defeatist. I can't get on board with that. I am not down with giving up on mankind.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Yeah sounds too defeatist. I can't get on board with that. I am not down with giving up on mankind.

Jehovah is not going to kill righteous mankind; He paid a high price (His son’s life) to redeem humans from death.
It’s the governments and forms of rule that will end. And those that will refuse Jesus’ kingship.

Many times, when the Bible mentions “heavens”, it’s referencing rulerships. See Ephesians 3:10.

If you don’t mind, I’ll post an old RF thread….

"New Heavens and New Earth" - Why Destroy the Old?

I hope I'm putting this in a right forum!: There are a few verses in the Scriptures where it talks about "new heavens and a new Earth", like at Isaiah 65:17, 2 Peter 3:13, & Revelation 21:1. Revelation 21:1 adds, "for the former heavens and the former earth had passed away; and the sea is no...

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