Shortest Proof for Creationism?

[Spirit of Light]

If we would discover organisms on
Venus they would be venerian-kind. But all life on Earth is humankind in the Theory of Evolution.

Sorry i am 100% disagreeing with you on this. there are million of different species of animals, insects, birds, humans. They are not all human beings. if they were they would be called human being.
a humming bird is a bird not a human being with wings

 

[questfortruth]

UMM you see Black people and White people as different species

They are respectful humans and Jesus Christ died to save them from eternal hell. According to my Religion.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Darwin operates with the term species. Such a term is possible if to consider a kind. There are different species within the kind of beings. For example, there are black people and white people.
But they belong to one kind: humankind. Definition of a kind: all beings, who share a common ancestor. So, there is only one kind in the Theory of Evolution. You can name it with any word. But it is easy to remember: humankind.

Any species you're wanting to label "human" is one whose development occurred AFTER the development of the very first creature we might label "human" based on whatever (mostly arbitrary) attributes we want to say makes something "human."

I'll grant you that if we had all of the creatures lined up one after the other in the line from bacteria to human, we couldn't necessarily say from one "step" to the next that there had been any change significant enough to call the new organism by a different name. However, looking at step 1 versus step 100,000,000,000, there are definitely going to be large-scale differences that we can easily pick out. There would be gray-area, obviously - like the development of "Homo floresiensis" - the small-scale "humans." There are differences there, but they are small enough that we don't call them something other than "human."

Basically, the term "human" is a line drawn in the sand... nothing more. It has no real significance or importance. It is merely a classification helper.

 

[Spirit of Light]

They are respectful humans and Jesus Christ died to save them from eternal hell. According to my Religion.

Why not see every race of humans as just that. as human beings? It does not matter if a person is Black, White Asian, or any other race of human being. they are still human.

 

[questfortruth]

Sorry i am 100% disagreeing with you on this. there are million of different species of animals, insects, birds, humans. They are not all human beings. if they were they would be called human being.
a humming bird is a bird not a human being with wings

According to the Theory of Evolution, there are many species within one kind of beings. There is only one kind on the planet.

According to so-called pseudo-science, there are many kinds of beings, each with its own species.
A kind can contain many species.

 

[halbhh]

ABSTRACT:
1. proof, that there are transitional forms in the modern theory of evolution.
2. statement, that they are not capable of living and surviving.
3. conclusion, that there is God.


Once upon a time, there were no humans on Earth.
But the leading lifeform was bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms between us and bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms (living on the planet) between us in 2021 AD and bacteria some billion years ago.

Later the leading lifeform became underwater plants.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and plants.

Later the leading lifeform became fish.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and fish.

Later the leading lifeform became monkeys.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and monkeys.

But the transitional forms are not capable of living and surviving.

We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.

The Biblical God tells, that there are many kinds of beings on the planet.
Theory of Darwin tells, that there is only one single organism in the origin of all life, including humans..
Thus, the Evolution tells an absurd, that there is only humankind on the planet, and no bird-kind, no worm-kind, no plant-kind. Namely, birds are humans too.

Darwin operates with the term species. Such a term is possible if to consider a kind. There are different species within the kind of beings. For example, there are black people and white people.
But they belong to one kind: humankind. Definition of a kind: all beings, who share a common ancestor. So, there is only one kind in the Theory of Evolution. You can name it with any word. But it is easy to remember: humankind. If we would discover organisms on Venus they would be venerian-kind.

According to the Theory of Evolution, there are many species within one kind of beings. There is only one kind on the planet.

According to so-called pseudo-science, there are many kinds of beings, each with its own species.
A kind can contain many species.

Christ said there is only one basis for faith that will endure:

24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” -- Christ in Matthew chapter 7

Everything else that isn't hearing His instructions and doing as He said -- including all other stuff, creationism theories, etc. -- is sand, and anything built on sand will fall. And that's not a 'maybe' but a certainty.

So, what do you base your faith on then?.... Build on the only thing He says is rock.

 

[Jainarayan]

It is mental fog, obscurity. I have a more simple view of reality.

Your view is wrong according to almost all established science. It's not a matter of evolution/creation, it's a matter of relatedness. You're confusing them.

 

[Jainarayan]

According to the Theory of Evolution, there are many species within one kind of beings. There is only one kind on the planet.

That is patently false. What is a "kind"?

According to so-called pseudo-science, there are many kinds of beings, each with its own species.
A kind can contain many species.

That is patently false. What is a "kind"?

 

[Irate State]

ABSTRACT:
1. proof, that there are transitional forms in the modern theory of evolution.
2. statement, that they are not capable of living and surviving.
3. conclusion, that there is God.


Once upon a time, there were no humans on Earth.
But the leading lifeform was bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms between us and bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms (living on the planet) between us in 2021 AD and bacteria some billion years ago.

Later the leading lifeform became underwater plants.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and plants.

Later the leading lifeform became fish.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and fish.

Later the leading lifeform became monkeys.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and monkeys.

But the transitional forms are not capable of living and surviving.

We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.

The Biblical God tells, that there are many kinds of beings on the planet.
Theory of Darwin tells, that there is only one single organism in the origin of all life, including humans..
Thus, the Evolution tells an absurd, that there is only humankind on the planet, and no bird-kind, no worm-kind, no plant-kind. Namely, birds are humans too.

Darwin operates with the term species. Such a term is possible if to consider a kind. There are different species within the kind of beings. For example, there are black people and white people.
But they belong to one kind: humankind. Definition of a kind: all beings, who share a common ancestor. So, there is only one kind in the Theory of Evolution. You can name it with any word. But it is easy to remember: humankind. If we would discover organisms on Venus they would be venerian-kind.

According to the Theory of Evolution, there are many species within one kind of beings. There is only one kind on the planet.

According to so-called pseudo-science, there are many kinds of beings, each with its own species.
A kind can contain many species.

Or look at it the other way around: everything alive today is bacteria.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

ABSTRACT:
1. proof, that there are transitional forms in the modern theory of evolution.
2. statement, that they are not capable of living and surviving.
3. conclusion, that there is God.


Once upon a time, there were no humans on Earth.
But the leading lifeform was bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms between us and bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms (living on the planet) between us in 2021 AD and bacteria some billion years ago.

Later the leading lifeform became underwater plants.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and plants.

Later the leading lifeform became fish.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and fish.

Later the leading lifeform became monkeys.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and monkeys.

But the transitional forms are not capable of living and surviving.

We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.

The Biblical God tells, that there are many kinds of beings on the planet.
Theory of Darwin tells, that there is only one single organism in the origin of all life, including humans..
Thus, the Evolution tells an absurd, that there is only humankind on the planet, and no bird-kind, no worm-kind, no plant-kind. Namely, birds are humans too.

Darwin operates with the term species. Such a term is possible if to consider a kind. There are different species within the kind of beings. For example, there are black people and white people.
But they belong to one kind: humankind. Definition of a kind: all beings, who share a common ancestor. So, there is only one kind in the Theory of Evolution. You can name it with any word. But it is easy to remember: humankind. If we would discover organisms on Venus they would be venerian-kind.

According to the Theory of Evolution, there are many species within one kind of beings. There is only one kind on the planet.

According to so-called pseudo-science, there are many kinds of beings, each with its own species.
A kind can contain many species.

Once again demonstrating that you have no idea of how logic works.

 

[Irate State]

A good science theory should be able to make predictions. The theory of Evolution is not a good theory since it cannot make accurate predictions. Evolutionary theory has to depend too much on a type of divine intervention knockoff, connected to statistical assumptions of odds. The gods of statistics are fickle, so predictions cannot be made; whims of the gods.

What I noticed is that science theory, that can make predictions, is accepted by religion. Nobody in upset about the various theories of Einstein or Newton. Religion is not upset about DNA or earthquakes. Religion get defensive when an atheist religion tries to muscles in under the false pretenses, of being a first tier theory.

I can fire a projectile and based on angle and muzzle velocity know where it will land. I do not have to throw dice and/or be frozen by the whims of the gods. Evolution is more like a good rough draft of a theory. It needs work until it can make accurate predictions. It is too soon to be called settled science.

Have you heard of Richard D. Alexander? His prediction on eusociality in vertebrates is just *chefkiss*.

This is just an article, not a paper, but it gets the point across.

The Predictive Power of Evolutionary Biology and the Discovery of Eusociality in the Naked Mole Rat | National Center for Science Education

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Have you heard of Richard D. Alexander? His prediction on eusociality on vertebrates is just *chefkiss*.

This is just an article, not a paper, but it gets the point across.

The Predictive Power of Evolutionary Biology and the Discovery of Eusociality in the Naked Mole Rat | National Center for Science Education

You might be interested in Edward O. Wilson's work, since he is an eminent authority on eusociality. His book, The Social Conquest of the Earth is quite wonderful.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

A good science theory should be able to make predictions. The theory of Evolution is not a good theory since it cannot make accurate predictions. Evolutionary theory has to depend too much on a type of divine intervention knockoff, connected to statistical assumptions of odds. The gods of statistics are fickle, so predictions cannot be made; whims of the gods.

What I noticed is that science theory, that can make predictions, is accepted by religion. Nobody in upset about the various theories of Einstein or Newton. Religion is not upset about DNA or earthquakes. Religion get defensive when an atheist religion tries to muscles in under the false pretenses, of being a first tier theory.

I can fire a projectile and based on angle and muzzle velocity know where it will land. I do not have to throw dice and/or be frozen by the whims of the gods. Evolution is more like a good rough draft of a theory. It needs work until it can make accurate predictions. It is too soon to be called settled science.

You are quite incorrect, you know. Evolution makes lots and lots of predictions -- predictions that are of immense use in medical science today. But it's easy to mistake the ability to say, for example, that some circumstance WILL lead to change, but then to say that because you couldn't say what that change woud be, your prediction is wrong.

There are very good experiments -- you can find them easily online -- that demonstrate the ability of bacteria to evolve immunity to anti-bacterial substances. The prediction that the Theory of Evolution makes is that such immunity WILL evolve. The fact that it can't say in what way nature will solve the problem does not invalidate the prediction.

For example:

 

[Revoltingest]

Once again demonstrating that you have no idea of how logic works.

There are 3 kinds of logic....
1) Deductive
2) Inductive
3) Saying things one believes.

We have type 3 logic in the OP.

 

[Irate State]

You might be interested in Edward O. Wilson's work, since he is an eminent authority on eusociality. His book, The Social Conquest of the Earth is quite wonderful.

Why, thank you very much. I'll look into it.

 

[PruePhillip]

ABSTRACT:
1. proof, that there are transitional forms in the modern theory of evolution.
2. statement, that they are not capable of living and surviving.
3. conclusion, that there is God.

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Don't you read Genesis 1? God commanded the seas to bring forth life.
How did God create life? He commanded His creation to create.
Show some faith Bro.

 

[GardenLady]

Then it is not part of Science, for there is a falsifiability criterion.

There have already been countless attempts to falsify the theory for a century and a half. It hasn't been done.

Specific mechanisms have been proposed and falsified, but the evolution is a fact that has never been falsified by any methodologically valid research.

 

[Tiberius]

ABSTRACT:
1. proof, that there are transitional forms in the modern theory of evolution.
2. statement, that they are not capable of living and surviving.
3. conclusion, that there is God.


Once upon a time, there were no humans on Earth.
But the leading lifeform was bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms between us and bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms (living on the planet) between us in 2021 AD and bacteria some billion years ago.

Later the leading lifeform became underwater plants.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and plants.

Later the leading lifeform became fish.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and fish.

Later the leading lifeform became monkeys.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and monkeys.

But the transitional forms are not capable of living and surviving.

We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.

The Biblical God tells, that there are many kinds of beings on the planet.
Theory of Darwin tells, that there is only one single organism in the origin of all life, including humans..
Thus, the Evolution tells an absurd, that there is only humankind on the planet, and no bird-kind, no worm-kind, no plant-kind. Namely, birds are humans too.

Darwin operates with the term species. Such a term is possible if to consider a kind. There are different species within the kind of beings. For example, there are black people and white people.
But they belong to one kind: humankind. Definition of a kind: all beings, who share a common ancestor. So, there is only one kind in the Theory of Evolution. You can name it with any word. But it is easy to remember: humankind. If we would discover organisms on Venus they would be venerian-kind.

According to the Theory of Evolution, there are many species within one kind of beings. There is only one kind on the planet.

According to so-called pseudo-science, there are many kinds of beings, each with its own species.
A kind can contain many species.

You're close, but you have made a few mistakes.

First of all, we aren't descended from plants. We and plants have a common ancestor, but there is no direct lineage from plants to us. It's like how you and your uncle share a common ancestor (a grandparent), but there is no direct lineage from your uncle to you.

Secondly, all of the organisms on Earth fit into the category of "Life", but that category is divided up into subcategories. So you're kind of correct when you say that there is only one kind of being on the planet - life - but that fails to look at the wonderful variation within that life.

 

[blü 2]

ABSTRACT:
1. proof, that there are transitional forms in the modern theory of evolution.
2. statement, that they are not capable of living and surviving.
3. conclusion, that there is God.


Once upon a time, there were no humans on Earth.
But the leading lifeform was bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms between us and bacteria.
Therefore, there are transitional forms (living on the planet) between us in 2021 AD and bacteria some billion years ago.

Later the leading lifeform became underwater plants.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and plants.

Later the leading lifeform became fish.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and fish.

Later the leading lifeform became monkeys.
There were no humans on Earth.
Thus, there are transitional forms between us and monkeys.

But the transitional forms are not capable of living and surviving.

We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.
We came to contradiction, therefore there is God.

The Biblical God tells, that there are many kinds of beings on the planet.
Theory of Darwin tells, that there is only one single organism in the origin of all life, including humans..
Thus, the Evolution tells an absurd, that there is only humankind on the planet, and no bird-kind, no worm-kind, no plant-kind. Namely, birds are humans too.

Darwin operates with the term species. Such a term is possible if to consider a kind. There are different species within the kind of beings. For example, there are black people and white people.
But they belong to one kind: humankind. Definition of a kind: all beings, who share a common ancestor. So, there is only one kind in the Theory of Evolution. You can name it with any word. But it is easy to remember: humankind. If we would discover organisms on Venus they would be venerian-kind.

According to the Theory of Evolution, there are many species within one kind of beings. There is only one kind on the planet.

According to so-called pseudo-science, there are many kinds of beings, each with its own species.
A kind can contain many species.

Here we go again!

The story reads like this ─

Human evolution goes from the most basic form of life (protobionts, presently undefined)
to the single cell (Prokaryota) 3.7 bya
to nucleated multicelled (Eukaryota) [though some say Eu- was before or simultaneous with Pro-] 1.7 bya
to bilateral symmetry (Bilateria) ›555 mya
to a stomach with two openings [mouth and anus] (Deuterostomia) ›555 mya
to a notochord [‘spinal chord’] (Chordata) ›555 mya

Ordovician - Silurian Extinction 440–450 Ma​

to a backbone (Vertebrata) ›525 mya
to a movable lower jaw (Gnathostomata) ›385 mya
to four legs (Tetrapoda) ›385 mya

Late Devonian Extinction From ~360 to 375 Ma​

to eggs with water retention suitable for dry land (Amniota) ›340 mya
to eye sockets each with a single opening into the skull (Synapsida) ›324 mya
to mammal-like reptiles (Therapsida) ~274 mya
to ‘dog teeth’ (Cynodontia) ~260 mya

Permian-Triassic Extinction 251 Ma​

to milk glands (Mammalia) ~200 mya
to vivipars and monotremes (Theriiformes) ›160 mya
to modern vivipars (Holotheria)
to proto-placentals and marsupials (Theria)
to placentals and certain extinct non-marsupials (Eutheria) ›160 mya
to placentals (Placentalia) ~110 mya
to all mammals except the Xenarthra [sloth, armadillo, anteater] (Epitheria) ~100 mya
to bats, primates, treeshrews (Archonta) ~100 mya

Cretaceous-Tertiary Extinction 65.5 Ma​

to tarsiers, monkeys, apes (Haplorrhini) ~63 mya
to New and Old World monkeys and apes (Simiiformes) ~40 mya
to Old World monkeys and gibbons (Catarrhini) ~35 mya
to apes [great apes and gibbons] (Hominoidea) ~29 mya
to hominids / great apes [orangutans, gorillas, chimps, Homo] (Hominidae) ~25 mya
to hominins [gorillas, chimps, Homo, H. floresiensis, H. Denisova] (Homininae) ~4.5 mya
to Homo [H. sapiens, H. Neanderthalis, ] (Homo) ~2.4 mya
to Homo sapiens [Homo sapiens Idaltu, Homo sapiens sapiens] (Homo sapiens) 250 kya
to Homo sapiens sapiens..

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Perhaps the best proof of creation is for someone to name anything that exists that was not designed and built by someone who had to knowledge and power to design and build it. A house was designed and built. A car or computer or cell phone was designed and built. But a living animal which is a million times more complex than a house or car just came into being all by itself?