Jumi
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No it's not weird. Most polytheistic and monotheistic religions do believe in creator gods though.
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is it weird
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There are those that have similar beliefs, and if I'm not mistaken, more than a few members here share similar beliefs.
But perhaps you'll elaborate on this...
Are you saying that you don't believe anything is created by an external force, or that everything has always existed as we know it today?
janesix
Active Member
Yes, I don't think anything was created by an external force. Although I am unsure if everything exists exactly as it is today. I think the universe probably goes through cycles.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
No. God as a creator is only one definition of the nature of the unknown and ourselves. While I don't use the words higher consciousness, if it helps you connect to life, yourself, and others (in my opinion) however you define it, it doesn't need to have a strict definition.
In my opinion, you live within god. If getting in touch with your higher conscious helps with that, that's cool. It doesn't need to be a creator for you to appreciate how you define and relate to the unknown.
Hi! I read you wrote, so you believe in a creator god? But what you wrote, which makes sense, was, so you believe in a created god? A world of difference.
It was my mistake.
PureX
Veteran Member
I think the mistake is in assuming these must be an 'either/or' question. I think it makes far more sense to view all that we perceive to exist as an innate expression of the God's divine existence. Not that it was created, later or apart from God's existence, but that it exists because God exists, as a natural manifestation of God's divine 'being'.
At lest, this is what makes the most sense, to me.
I think it may be likened to the difference between someone dreaming and someone wide awake planning and making as in work.
Working is for some purpose. But, what we know seems to have little to no purpose.
Why higher? Why is the term higher always used?
WalterTrull
Godfella
No matter what anyone believes there is a mystery still that no one can get their head around.
I personally believe that Consciousness/God/Brahman is the fundamental and the universe is like a play/drama created by Consciousness/God. We each have this spark of Consciousness animating us.
But what that Consciousness/God is, is a mystery I can not get my head around.
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
Objectively, this is no weirder than any other belief about "God" or "gods."
Subjectively, people will tell you all sorts of things to the contrary. The trick is not to listen to them, and know, without a doubt, that when it comes to the "spiritual" NO ONE knows any better than you do what is true.
janesix
Active Member
Because lower wouldnt make sense, as we are part of it. Higher up the hierarchy of holons.
janesix
Active Member
Are you asking a question? I'm not sure.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
I think that understanding God as wholly responsible for the created universe is a very important part of most people's faith. Taking God out of the role is certainly unusual. Not wrong (or weird IMO) but unusual. For me, interesting even...
Would you care to share your reasoning/experience on how you came to this belief?
'Left' and 'right' were already taken.
The earth exists without the eye, the eye absolutely does not exist without the earth. So I would say nature is not determined by a pinhead region of the human cranium dysfunctional self label "higher functioning" region. It should be called the dysfunctioning region.
janesix
Active Member
I don't think the universe necessarily looks "created". It seems too precise. If you look at my profile picture, you will see what I mean. The moon and earth square the circle. This is just a tiny bit of what I mean. If there were a creator they would have had to invent basic geometry, and three dimensional space. I think this is just an expression of a natural universe. About God, I have experienced God as a different state of consciousness. So it is my guess that God is a part of this universe, not the creator.
WalterTrull
Godfella
Yes and no. You asked several. Only two I could answer outright.
well the structural orientation seems to be common. We have Donald Trump as the eye today and we vote on the eye of I's every 4 years. Wierd that our political system just so happens to match this conceptual structure identically. What a wierd random accident.