Giving up on dating (why women are difficult to date today)

[Rival]

Sure, she knows kung fu.
But my hands are "deadly" according to government.
Mrs Revolt bore witness to them pronounced so.

I'd like to know the story behind this.

But I suspect it's not in line with the thread.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd like to know the story behind this.

But I suspect it's not in line with the thread.

It happened when crossing the Ameristan Canuckistan border.
I was held at gunpoint with my hands held straight out to the side
while they searched Mr Truck. Mrs Revolt & our travel companions
heard him say that my "hands could kill".
I must look very dangerous.

 

[sun rise]

Riiiiiiiiight....men are sane, but women are different.
It sounds like you might've joined the Pa Taitai Club.

You got me on "Pa Taitai" - google was also not helpful with that exact search.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I unfortunately have to agree with you on much of this. And I have no idea what can or even should be done about it. The fact is that our culture is completely controlled by a commercial ideology that preaches 24-7 and in every possible media that we should all have whatever we want, when we want it, and how we want it, just because we want it. And further, it preaches that we can all have this because this is America, where anyone can be, do, and have whatever they want, if they just "try" hard enough.

This is all complete buklsh*t, of course. It's a fantasy being pushed on us constantly by commercial advertisers who's job it is to get us to buy all kinds of useless and over-prices crap until we go broke, and end up so deep in dept that we die under a bridge somewhere. And in the case of women, after centuries of being exploited, abused, and oppressed by the men in their lives, they now have the additional 24-7 message of the feminists telling them that they don't need men in their lives at all (and the job market is happy to accommodate this idea because women work cheaper) so they can now hold men up to their fantasy ideal an and reject anyone that doesn't 'measure up'. Another, "you can have it all" messages just for the girls. And it's mostly just more bullsh*t.

But I don't think your solution is to reject women, or to reject looking for a compatible women to partner with. I think you are probably just going to have to accept where and when you are living, and the huge impediments that come with it, and then keep looking. Because I am quite sure there are women out there what will align with your perspective. You're just going to have to be patient, open, and willing, until she shows up.

Wow, someone gets it.....

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Good luck, friend.

Thanks but no luck needed, I'm taking a break from dating and working on my career.

 

[Shad]

I realize many of the people on these forums are a lot older than me and are married with grand children, but when I speak on my experiences I'm referencing what I've experienced and by no means what I say is universal to the experiences of others or women who've I never met. When I say dating sucks, it really does suck. In some small way I understand why some men create groups like MGTOW or create Incel groups. I think with the advent of technology such as social media, human beings are increasingly less inclined to mentally know their partner or value relationships. But I also think the standards in how we value each other have changed and have become unfair. Although celebrity relationships aren't necessarily reflective on everyday relationships, I do feel women like Miley Cyrus a self declared pan-sexual who married Liam Hemsworth, on social media kissing another woman and in response to her split have the audacity to have these care free quotes about being yourself. I see this everyday in the women I meet. It's like how do you get involved in a serious marriage, split, then take pictures as if you are living a care free life although knowing the other person you married is hurt? I heard some people say that women today are acting like men which is really not something I find even fair to us men because many of us don't behave like that.

I really feel like it really is unfair to some men when it comes to the dating pool because now the standards of courting has shifted. I'm always bombarded with women who feel the need to value my manhood based on their own unrealistic standards. For example, a woman doesn't have to have a car, but a man does. A woman can live at home with her parents, but a man shouldn't. A woman doesn't have to work and be on government assistance, but a man shouldn't. In my dating experience I've dated the car less, house less, job less, and even the immature. I think I've compromised certain values I hold dear all because I want to overlook my own values to get to know the person. But it not only has damaged my perspective of dating but I'm increasingly realizing that mentally there are a lot of women that don't have their s**** together mentally.

Now, I'm not making a universal judgment but simply based on what I've encountered, there are far too many women who are mentally damaged by their last relationship, and unfortunately tend to view men who they've encountered, and unconsciously judge the present man based on the last man. I was told by a friend of mine to "not look and let them come to you" but in those types of truisms I don't see how me intentionally not searching for something makes something come to me and even if that is true is it compatible? I swear nowadays women want a man that is 6'6 making six figures with a 12 inch member. These unrealistic standards women have, and women not being honest with themselves is really making the dating pool hard

I think you need to change the areas you find/found by women for relationships.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

You should try a hobby or something. The hospital you work in has a quite messed up staff.

The messed up part is an understatement. Nurses who are married sleep with ER doctors. Doctors sleep with nurses who are married to their friends. As I sit back and listen to the nonsensical gossip its almost like people don't value marriage anymore. I've went out to drink with married women before and they've expressed lust for me. I'm like "but you're married." Now, given that situation I wasn't dating her its just that its just so discouraging to meet quality women. Now, I've met a few so-called quality women but they have standards that are unfair. I'm 6,0 even, but I've met a woman 5'5 but she wants a man that is 6'7. I'm just flabbergasted by the fact that how do you have all these standards and you don't even reflect the very things you want.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Yes, there is underlying truth to much of what you have said about expectations. But then you have to realize that those standards were encouraged by men through centuries of male-dominated societies......and around and around we go.

OK that is fair enough. However, at what point in that truth are women of this caliber going to take responsibility for these unrealistic expectations? At what point past that history women who are damaged emotionally going to accept that they need to stay out of the dating pool until they're fully healed?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

No Koldo............. he tells us that he cannot pull a decent date. All his dates are no good. See what he wrote to me...:-



Poor bloke..... we can but try to help.......

I think he said the same thing you quoted...

again me dating is not the issue, the issue is the quality of the person. You see, we all put our best foot forward when we meet new people, but once the "fog of war" is removed, I realized that this person may have certain emotional issues that they haven't fixed. You don';t realize how many women in California at least walk around thinking they got over their last boyfriend/husband only to meet someone new and many rehash these feelings. There are women seriously convinced they don't have issues simply because they're not thinking about the last guy, but they don't realize it's not about thinking about the last guy that doesn't make you completely healed, it's what you do in the present.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Not crazy but different. The wise man learns to understand the difference and even appreciate it

I understand our differences. That is not the issue! The issue is unrealistic gender roles, expectations from men, and being mentally damaged and bitter from the last man.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

"Blame the women" is the oldest, most screwed up game on earth.

I clearly localized "women" to the ones I've encountered not women on the entire planet. I was careful with my words.

In my admittedly limited experience,

This is all I needed to know...

 

[Epic Beard Man]

You live in or around L.A. right?

Yes.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

If you guys think this is "babying" you honestly need to be around men in the break room or men at bars here in California. This is being respectful but demonstrating frustration.

 

[Sunstone]

This is all I needed to know...

You do not know jack about women and the sooner you accept that fact, the better for you. You know so little that you can't even get a date, but you think -- you think -- you know enough to pronounce exactly why you can't get a date. Has it occurred to you just how crazy that sounds?

I used to like you, I used to respect you, but then you came out swinging against women like some Incel.

 

[Shad]

About it

 

[Revoltingest]

You got me on "Pa Taitai" - google was also not helpful with that exact search.

"Pa taitai" is "fear wife" in Beijingese.
The club is for hubbies whose marriage endures because they know how to cope.
Wu Wei belongs too.

 

[sayak83]

My parents are dead.

Sorry to hear that.

 

[Milton Platt]

OK that is fair enough. However, at what point in that truth are women of this caliber going to take responsibility for these unrealistic expectations? At what point past that history women who are damaged emotionally going to accept that they need to stay out of the dating pool until they're fully healed?

And at what point are men going to take at least some responsibility for creating the current situation. All good questions. I don't know.

 

[sun rise]

"Pa taitai" is "fear wife" in Beijingese.
The club is for hubbies whose marriage endures because they know how to cope.
Wu Wei belongs too.

There is a difference between us because my wife and I love each other and accommodate each other.

 

[oldbadger]

The OP doesn't take my advice.
(I'm being ignored.)

That's sad, 'cos seeing how you're understudy to RFs sexual expert (that's me) you'd think that the membership would be hanging on to (clinging to) our every word and sentence.

If I had to live it all again I would love to date Meryl Streep. I wonder what I'd be like listening to her cooing in my ear in that Scandinavian accent........ *wriggles*