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Featured atheism and death

Discussion in 'Non-theism' started by syo, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. syo

    syo Well-Known Member

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    suppose atheism is correct and there is no god. what happens when we die?
     
  2. wizanda

    wizanda Hairy doesn't mean scary;beard doesn't mean weird
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    Atheism is just non-belief in deities. It says nothing about an afterlife. You can believe in an afterlife as an atheist. You can believe anything. You just don't believe in gods.
     
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    What happened before you were born? Pretty much that.
     
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    Fair points. For my response, I took @syo to be assuming that God and an afterlife were a package deal. I agree that this is isn't a valid assumption.
     
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  6. Polymath257

    Polymath257 Thnk & Care
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    To our bodies? They rot. But you knew that.

    To our consciousness? It dissipates. Sort of like a candle flame being blown out.
     
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    Suppose you believe the earth is flat. And say, your ship gets blown way off course, you know, past the edge. Will you fall off the earth?
     
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    Either non existence or something else.
     
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  9. syo

    syo Well-Known Member

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    yes, that's it. many people believe in god because of the afterlife.
     
  10. syo

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    i don't know. perhaps?
     
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    Kuzcotopia If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.

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    Our mental processes are downloaded into the magnetic field for approximately 400 years or less, depending on how long the delivery ship takes to collect us.

    Our conscious energy is transferred to large FTL batteries by the Transferrus race, which seeded us and terraformed the earth to evolve into their battery systems 400 million years ago.

    Generally, a human consciousness battery lasts about 12.7 quilbarx, but I don't know how that scales in terms of our measurements.

    The above, I'll have you know, contains exactly as much evidence as any other theory of what happens after we die. . . Just because you find a bunch of people who agree with you doesn't make your version any more probable.
     
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  12. Quintessence

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    It'd be interesting to see if this is actually the case with some surveys, but I have a follow-up here -which sense of "believe in" do you mean?

    Do you mean "believe in" as in "I trust in this god because it's promised me a special spot in an afterlife?"

    Or do you mean "believe in" as in "I think this god is ontologically real because an afterlife exists?"

    The first makes sense to me. The second doesn't.
     
  13. syo

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    i mean than many people fear death. and the only thing that can guarantee a life after death is an omnipotent supernatural being, god.
     
  14. Carlita

    Carlita "It''s not my karma"

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    That's it.

    If we are not reborn, lights out. Nothing to do with atheism. There are religions that believe in the afterlife without the existence of a god.

    What's interesting is I am getting more comfortable with "nothing will exist" since my aunt/my friend passed away three weeks ago. She's not here. Why would I think she would be anywhere else but in the hearts of her family, friends, and people who wished her well living?
     
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    Yeah - many people believe all sorts of wacky ideas for bad reasons.
     
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    George-ananda Advaita and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    Most (not all) atheists believe there is nothing experienced and no experiencer once the brain stops functioning.
     
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  17. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    That's not a very good reason, since we don't know anything about the afterlife.
    But it is as good as any other of the reasons, I suppose.:shrug:
    Tom
     
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    Sigmund freud had a neurotic pheonix once who was afraid of death. His conclusion was with was an irrational sexual attraction its mother.

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    As you are well aware, @George-ananda I am a so-called "Strong" atheist who believes in the distinct likelihood of a so-called "afterlife" due to my myriad of out-of-body experiences. For me, it is just a logical conclusion, really. I am equally insistent that it's not like what we have been told by the world's religions. People are going to be delightfully surprised. "But, but... ... I'm dead, dammit!"
     
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  20. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    I've never had anything like that.

    But enough people have to leave me unconvinced that simple materialism fully explains the Human Situation. The difference between me and theists is that I don't pretend to know what the truth is. I have a personal belief about it, but I know I don't know, so I don't expect anyone else to believe it.
    At least, not just because I have Faith in it. I am more likely to be wrong than not. But there's no way of telling, at this point in time.
    Tom
     
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