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We Are Alone in the Universe!
It apparently didnt take much for life to form. The correct materials which are available all over the universe and time, which the universe has in abundance. Entropy reached the stage that life can form across the universe. Finally places for it to jel, of the few thousand exoplanets discovered it seems that about 10% are possibly to host life (although much more observation is required). There are literally trillions of planets out there.
Why would intelligent life have to evolve "the same way" it evolved here? What if intelligent life evolves in multiple ways, and we're not aware of them?
Ratt Blastard
Member
Life is still not inevitable no matter how much time or material you have.
Ratt Blastard
Member
Like how for instance?
I have no idea. That's the point. We don't know. We have no ability at this time to make any definitive statement ruling it in or out.
Ratt Blastard
Member
Notice this sentence:
"A new paper shows how an analysis using a statistical technique called Bayesian inference could shed light on how complex extraterrestrial life might evolve in alien worlds."
Not "can evolve" or "does evolve" but "might evolve". Their assumptions are based on belief not absolute factual evidence. They are assuming intelligent life might exist on the basis of faith.
And you're assuming it doesn't exist, also based on faith.
Isn't it?
It is even hypothesised that life may have evolved multiple times on earth
Life may have emerged not once, but many times on Earth
Ratt Blastard
Member
Faith in the evidence I have.
Yes might. That'd the thing when there is no evidence. One MUST be honest
So do you have evidence that there is no life out there?
@ChristineM also presented evidence. Yet you have gone beyond the evidence and concluded definitely in your mind that in tens of billions of other galaxies there is not a single other example of intelligent life, anywhere but here. That's simply not reasonable. You don't have the evidence to conclude that.
Actually, that is very poorly argued.
In fact, since we know for certain that life exists right here, right now, it is not only statistically probable that life arises -- it is a statistical certainty.
And for that reason, with quite literally hundreds of billions of other worlds on which it might happen, it seems extremely likely that it did.
'Arguing from ignorance,' example: We have not seen a black swan, therefore black swans do not exist.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
That's absurd. It would be like saying that I've searched the entirety of Kansas and haven't found evidence for a single kangaroo, thus we must assume that kangaroos don't exist.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
We Are Alone in the Universe!
IMO:
The Universe is big, so, only someone who is omniscient + omnipresent is able to make such a claim and know the claim is correct
We are "All one" in the Universe is a claim made by some Advaitists, which makes sense to me. The above makes no sense
PureX
Veteran Member
Basically, what you've just proposed is that we should make assumptions based on nothing.
Ratt Blastard
Member
Have we seen any evidence that intelligent life exist anywhere else but here? Where are they? We should be getting reruns of alien versions of I Love Lucy by now if they progress to a technological level to invent radio or television. We keep listening and sending but so far nothing.