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But all of you can be wrong/But that does not mean that none of us are right.
What about E-mail. Maybe Gods E-mail is [email protected]No worries, God does not usually answer His phone anyway and if He does He usually puts you on Hold.
Nothing, really, because God cannot be disproved or proved with the current limitations of empirical science. So there's just philosophical arguments left and I find the ones opposed to God unconvincing. Plus, believing in God is a benefit to my life and helps lead to greater happiness and contentment.As per the other thread about what it might take to believe in God, and presumably this might apply only to those who do have a belief in the one God, although it also might apply to others.
I don't have his phone number......
Alternatively...No worries, God does not usually answer His phone anyway and if He does He usually puts you on Hold.
I tried to get that domain back in the mid-90's but someone beat me to it.What about E-mail. Maybe Gods E-mail is [email protected]
One of two things:
Edited to add - the word, honestly, isn't important. I suppose there's a third option, which is what atheists in my mind do all the time: have your gods, and don't call them gods for whatever reason.
- For the things I consider gods now to cease to exist, which would mean the universe and everything, including myself, would cease to exist (obviously, this is never going to happen)
- For me to fall into the trap of letting others define gods for me and thus not apply that honorific title to the things in my life that are worthy of worship (which is also never going to happen)
Of course, God him self beat you to itI tried to get that domain back in the mid-90's but someone beat me to it.
Nah. It was probably just another computer nerd.Of course, God him self beat you to it
God created the domain before mankind was created , so no human could play God
You are so boring no sense of Godly humorNah. It was probably just another computer nerd.
Hey Quint,
I assume you're defining a "god" as "something that is worshipped"?
If so, how do you define "worship"?
I tend to view the term "god" as similar to an honorific title, like "teacher" or "doctor" - we apply it to things that meet certain characteristics. As a teacher is "someone who imparts knowledge to others" and a doctor is "someone who helps the sick" a god is "someone we hold in especially high esteem or worth; aka, that we consider worthy of worship."
To some, "worship" is a loaded word but at core it just means declaring something to be of great worth or value. The reasons we have for doing that often vary. One might deem something of great worth because it embodies principles one finds important or worthy of cultivating in life. Or perhaps one is inspired by the awe and splendor of something and that makes one declare "this is a god." For some, it's about power - something with great power is of great worth or value. In the end, each person gets to decide what is of great worth and value to them. They can apply the honorific title of "god" to that... or not. A god not called god is still a god in function, just as a teacher not called teacher is still a teacher in function.
And the Water of Life is the Water of Life:Kool-Aid is Kool-Aid
Yes, let's look at all the options, not just the Bible option....Alternatively...
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That certainly is a logical possibility.But all of you can be wrong.
Or prayer requests. God hears all of those and answers some of them, even if we cannot hear Him answer.What about E-mail. Maybe Gods E-mail is [email protected]
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I think most English-speakers, including most theists I'm aware of, would concede that "worship" means more than just "valuing something highly."
I highly value my mom; that doesn't mean I worship her, like she's a deity. I highly value my job, that doesn't mean I worship my job.
IThis is the kind of equivocation that theists constantly pull, and to be honest, it drives me a bit bonkers (if I wasn't bonkers already, which is subject to heated debate ). It's the same equivocation that occurs when it comes to "religion," or "faith," to claim that atheists engage in those things, too.
Well, it does mean more than just "valuing something highly" - there's a particularly great depth to it. A profundity. A... honestly, it's hard to describe. I don't know what other word to put to that other than to call it sacred/divine. And honestly, the word isn't important. The depth of feeling is.
That's not at all unusual. This sort of thing is the norm for polytheists - something being deeply worthy and therefore deified doesn't mean you engage in some particular sort worshipful behaviors with any regularity. Nor does it tell us much about what those behaviors look like, and they vary quite a lot.
Well, they pretty much do, though. The thing is, "god" and "religion" as most English-speakers understand it is heavily biased towards classical monotheist theologies and their associated religions, particularly Christianity. The very concept of "religion" is a very modern/Western construct. While some degree of ethnocentrism in how we understand the world is unavoidable, it is possible to escape the narrow understanding most Westerners have of what religion is, what worship is, and what gods are with a little study. It's not easy. These assumptions are so engrained in our thinking that it's like a box we don't even see or recognize is there. When others point out the box, the response is usually dismissive or negative. Funny thing is, if I just didn't use the words, nobody would complain. And the words aren't what's important in the first place.
I agree, the meaning is vastly more important than the label. But labels, unfortunately, are the way us primates can communicate ideas (particularly complex ones) to each other. And virtually nobody in English just uses "worship" to mean "have a deep feeling about." Worship is an act, a verb, not a feeling.
Then the word is virtually meaningless, to be honest. If I "love" my partner, but that "love" could be any of a variety of completely contradictory things, from doing kind things for him to abusing him to ignoring him, then the term has zero communicative or meaningful value.
If we care more about the ideas involved than the words, I don't understand why you need to use some word that clearly has mainstream uses/meanings when what you mean by them is something so obviously different.
Again, if the words/labels aren't important, let's toss them and say what we actually mean. Instead of insisting to atheists that, "No you really do believe in gods!"
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