ranjana
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felt bad to be derailing the enlightened person thread so much, so decided to move the last bit of the dialogue to a new thread if anyone had anything to add....
From earlier thread:
Quote from painted wolf:
why doesnt god send each person a teacher if it is their right to one?
Why doesn't god give me all the food I could eat or a world without risk of freezing or burning?
Why doesn't god give everyone freedom and peace?
The journey is what important... the goal is just something to move toward.
Quote from ranjana:
i like this debate, dont get me wrong, i think we just have fundamentally different world views. i think a teacher is an absolute blessing, and should never be taken for granted.
I believe the same thing... but I also believe that the teacher is no better than the student.
Originally Posted by painted wolf Why doesn't god give me all the food I could eat or a world without risk of freezing or burning?
i would answer that it isnt in your rights as a human being to have all the food you could eat, or to live without risk of freezing or burning.
Originally Posted by painted wolf
Why doesn't god give everyone freedom and peace?
but god does.... that is our nature even without our realization of it, god gives us freedom to choose our perception also, so we may not perceive we are free, but we are always free, even locked up in jail for life.
Originally Posted by painted wolf
The journey is what important... the goal is just something to move toward.
i agree with you; if we get caught up in a goal, then we have lost the correct vision, because all that is exists is the present moment. we only have the opportunity to act in accordance to our highest awareness in the moment, as a future state of enlightenment is just an idea that doesnt exist. hopefully we meet someone who can help stretch our capacity of awareness. or hopefully we just get it by some grace!
Originally Posted by painted wolf
I believe the same thing... but I also believe that the teacher is no better than the student.
absolutely agree with you! im not saying a teacher is better than anyone else, and is more deserving of one thing or another. equal but different.
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from LuisDantas:
Originally Posted by ranjana
i would answer that it isnt in your rights as a human being to have all the food you could eat, or to live without risk of freezing or burning.
god gives us freedom to choose our perception also, so we may not perceive we are free, but we are always free, even locked up in jail for life.
You know, those are pretty good arguments against the likelyhood of existence of Abraham's God.
From earlier thread:
Quote from painted wolf:
why doesnt god send each person a teacher if it is their right to one?
Why doesn't god give me all the food I could eat or a world without risk of freezing or burning?
Why doesn't god give everyone freedom and peace?
The journey is what important... the goal is just something to move toward.
Quote from ranjana:
i like this debate, dont get me wrong, i think we just have fundamentally different world views. i think a teacher is an absolute blessing, and should never be taken for granted.
I believe the same thing... but I also believe that the teacher is no better than the student.
Originally Posted by painted wolf Why doesn't god give me all the food I could eat or a world without risk of freezing or burning?
i would answer that it isnt in your rights as a human being to have all the food you could eat, or to live without risk of freezing or burning.
Originally Posted by painted wolf
Why doesn't god give everyone freedom and peace?
but god does.... that is our nature even without our realization of it, god gives us freedom to choose our perception also, so we may not perceive we are free, but we are always free, even locked up in jail for life.
Originally Posted by painted wolf
The journey is what important... the goal is just something to move toward.
i agree with you; if we get caught up in a goal, then we have lost the correct vision, because all that is exists is the present moment. we only have the opportunity to act in accordance to our highest awareness in the moment, as a future state of enlightenment is just an idea that doesnt exist. hopefully we meet someone who can help stretch our capacity of awareness. or hopefully we just get it by some grace!
Originally Posted by painted wolf
I believe the same thing... but I also believe that the teacher is no better than the student.
absolutely agree with you! im not saying a teacher is better than anyone else, and is more deserving of one thing or another. equal but different.
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from LuisDantas:
Originally Posted by ranjana
i would answer that it isnt in your rights as a human being to have all the food you could eat, or to live without risk of freezing or burning.
god gives us freedom to choose our perception also, so we may not perceive we are free, but we are always free, even locked up in jail for life.
You know, those are pretty good arguments against the likelyhood of existence of Abraham's God.