Will Romney be the Next President?

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You see a problem with corporate personhood.
I see a bigger problem if gov't tries to eliminate it or restrict its speech.

This is what happens when political ideology is treated like religion!

 

[Revoltingest]

This is what happens when political ideology is treated like religion!

Religion & political ideology are identical in that they aren't objective things.
People just have the views they have. Some do like to believe they're objective
though....it gives them the feeling that they have the truth.

 

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Religion & political ideology are identical in that they aren't objective things.
People just have the views they have. Some do like to believe they're objective
though....it gives them the feeling that they have the truth.

The only thing identical about religion, political and economic theory is that they are not scientific....although economists think that what they do is science! But the difference is that religion does not impact those outside of the religion unless the adherents are forceful or belligerent, and try to impose their beliefs on others.

Political and economic theories can be applied to government policymaking, so if flat taxes work, let's look at the countries that have already applied this wisdom and see how well they work. Likewise, if cutting business and investment taxes stimulates job growth, let's see if it has done so in the past, since income and investment taxes have been cut for higher earners...so let's take a look at the results and see if it works.

And since one of the great unreported stories right now is this new Transpacific trade deal that will effectively end the power of the nation state, why isn't anyone revisitng the claims made by free trade advocates for the last 30 years that free trade schemes only cause a "reorganizing" of an economy, not a permanent loss of middle class jobs...is that what has happened in the Rust Belt over the last 30 years? Mexicans were promised when they signed on to NAFTA that the Treaty would not destroy farmer's livelihoods when tariffs were removed and cheap U.S. grain imports were allowed....what happened? You might want to check the border states over the last 20 years or so for that answer.

If libertarians were just practicing their worship of individualism and contempt for social values in private, no one would care. But there are too many libertarians like the Koch Brothers who are imposing their religion on everyone else...and enriching themselves from the politicians they've bought, I might add, for the libertarian religion to be ignored by the rest of society.

 

[Copernicus]

Religion & political ideology are identical in that they aren't objective things.
People just have the views they have. Some do like to believe they're objective
though....it gives them the feeling that they have the truth.

I think that everyone has that feeling, including libertarians, who are no less "religious" than others in their political ideology. We all strive to take positions that we think are righteous.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think that everyone has that feeling, including libertarians, who are no less "religious" than others in their political ideology. We all strive to take positions that we think are righteous.

Agreed!
I have no logical & evidenced based argument for my values.
Tis good to be aware of it, eh?

 

[Kathryn]

Nah....not a flame war in sight.
I be good....posting a little....landscaping....eating chocolate....enjoying the heat, the sun & my verdant little piece of Heaven here.

Hey, I be doing much of the same:

Landscaping/yard work
Posting a little
Eating strawberry preserves THAT I CANNED ALL BY MYSELF for the first time!
Not particularly enjoying the 100 degree heat
However, still enjoying my not-so-verdant yet still pleasant little piece of Heaven.

We be jammin'!

 

[Revoltingest]

We had rain yesterday & today!
The drought subsides. My hostas rejoice!
Temp & humidity each shoot for triple digits.
Life is good.

 

[GabrielWithoutWings]

Romney won't win because Republicans won't vote for him.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

They may not vote for Romney but they'll vote against Obama.

Granted, voting against someone didn't work so well for Democrats in 2004 with Kerry since people would rather vote for someone rather than against someone else.

It'll be a very, very close race. I'll be paying close attention to the debates.

 

[s2a]

Speaking of Walmart, I was reminded of this in a speech by Bernie Sanders:

The Vermont senator discussed income inequality, “Today,” he said, “the wealthiest 400 individuals own more wealth than the bottom half of America – 150 million people. Today, the six heirs to the Wal-Mart fortune own more wealth than the bottom 30 percent.
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Bernie Sanders Storms the Senate Floor and Challenges Congress' Koch Whores

It is ridiculous to call your society a democracy, when it has this level of concentration of wealth!

Oh c'mon... no one is peeing down your leg, that's just trickle down economics doing it's thing!

Sincerely yours,
The Job Creators of America. Inc.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Obama. People are fed up with how the right wing does things. Besides, Obama pretty much has the gay vote, the Hispanic vote, and unless something's changed- the African American vote.

Uh... why exactly wouldn't Romney have Hispanic or African American voters?

 

[tytlyf]

Uh... why exactly wouldn't Romney have Hispanic or African American voters?

Mittens will have their support. Just not as high a %

 

[BSM1]

Why this is even being a debate question is ludicrous. Anyone that would even consider putting a lying, self-important, beer-swizzling, golf-playing, socialistic apologetic amateur back in office surely must be out of their minds. (More to be pitied than despised) One word for not electing B.O.-George Soros. Other than that I have no opinion either way.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Why this is even being a debate question is ludicrous. Anyone that would even consider putting a lying, self-important, beer-swizzling, golf-playing, socialistic apologetic amateur back in office surely must be out of their minds. (More to be pitied than despised) One word for not electing B.O.-George Soros. Other than that I have no opinion either way.

I did not realize "George Soros" was one word. Thanks for enlightening this out-of-his-mind, pitiable Romey-opposer. Is "Koch brothers" one word, too?

 

[BSM1]

I did not realize "George Soros" was one word. Thanks for enlightening this out-of-his-mind, pitiable Romey-opposer. Is "Koch brothers" one word, too?

Best you got?

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Why this is even being a debate question is ludicrous. Anyone that would even consider putting a lying, self-important, beer-swizzling, golf-playing, socialistic apologetic amateur back in office surely must be out of their minds. (More to be pitied than despised) One word for not electing B.O.-George Soros. Other than that I have no opinion either way.

I did not realize "George Soros" was one word. Thanks for enlightening this out-of-his-mind, pitiable Romey-opposer. Is "Koch brothers" one word, too?

Best you got?

I rest my case.

 

[BSM1]

I did not realize "George Soros" was one word. Thanks for enlightening this out-of-his-mind, pitiable Romey-opposer. Is "Koch brothers" one word, too?

I've been thinking about this post all afternoon and I may owe you an apology. I assumed that most intelligent people would know that my "one word" statement was an attempt (ever how poorly) at humor. I also assumed your reply was meant to be a biting rebuttal, which I expected. Then I realized that you may not have understood what I was doing and maybe Obama supporters do have a mental deficiency that will not let them grasp the obvious, even when it stares them in the face. This would certainly explain why an "Obama supporter" would even exist in the first place. So, never wanting to make fun of the less fortunate, I wish to apologize (slowly, of course). "I am sorry for your handicap. I hope they find a cure in your lifetime."

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I hope Obama wins mostly just so there aren't anymore Religious conservatives put on the Supreme Court, and so a religious agenda doesn't become priority. Fortunately Obama seems to be the better speech giver, which does help. But I don't think this will be anything but a very close race. But if Romney wins, hopefully the Democrats can win the House and retain the Senate.
Actually I was hoping Santorum was on the ballot, because then it would be more certain we'll be safe for at least 4 more years from a religious zealot who thinks we should we all pray to there God and live in accordance to their religious interpretation, and just try and work harder if we aren't financially successful.

 

[T-Dawg]

I've been thinking about this post all afternoon and I may owe you an apology. I assumed that most intelligent people would know that my "one word" statement was an attempt (ever how poorly) at humor. I also assumed your reply was meant to be a biting rebuttal, which I expected. Then I realized that you may not have understood what I was doing and maybe Obama supporters do have a mental deficiency that will not let them grasp the obvious, even when it stares them in the face. This would certainly explain why an "Obama supporter" would even exist in the first place. So, never wanting to make fun of the less fortunate, I wish to apologize (slowly, of course). "I am sorry for your handicap. I hope they find a cure in your lifetime."

I think he was just poking at your apparent ignorance for fun, in the belief that your impossibly stupid remarks indicate that you are hopeless and only good for laughing at.

I do not agree with this approach. I prefer to show through logic and common sense that my opponents are idiots, and then make fun of them after they fail to listen.

Why this is even being a debate question is ludicrous.

I agree; no one in their right minds would consider Romney. This SHOULD be an election between Obama and whoever the socialist party ends up running, but instead Republicans keep messing things up.

Anyone that would even consider putting a lying,

Well, he did violate a few campaign promises (conservatives should be happy about this), but at least he doesn't go around intentionally telling blatant lies to stir up fear and create support for dumb policies (ie, like Rush Limbaugh).

self-important,

Sounds pretty non-quantitative and subjective. I'd say it describes Romney pretty well.

beer-swizzling,

I have never heard of Obama drinking beer before. Where did you hear about this?

golf-playing,

And we should care about this why?

socialistic

Obama is a capitalist. I'll believe he's a socialist when he gets around to nationalizing all major industries, redistributing the means of production to the working class, and/or abolishing private property (contrary to what Republican liars might tell you, this has not happened).

apologetic

You as a conservative are upset because he's apologetic about being a liberal and constantly tries to compromise with his conservative enemies?

amateur

Be honest - if he had had a couple decades of experience as a politician, the propaganda lines would replace "amateur" and "inexperienced" with "Washington elitist" and "career politician."

One word for not electing B.O.-George Soros.

Surely you aren't a believer in the nonsensical conspiracy theories about single-handedly funding the vast liberal conspiracy or something?

 

[BSM1]

Duh-What was I thinking. Thamks

 

[BSM1]

I have never heard of Obama drinking beer before. Where did you hear about this?

Do you ever watch the news? On any media? He evidently thinks all of our political ad social woes can be solved over a beer.