Why do you dislike Islam?

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Why do you dislike Islam?.

Female genital mutilation
Pushing homosexuals off of towers
Burning people alive in a cage
Honor killings
Throwing acid in faces
Cutting of the hands of theives
Stoning adulterers
Misogyny
Terrorism

What does Islam the world offer to offset that?

 

[sayak83]

Female genital mutilation
Pushing homosexuals off of towers
Burning people alive in a cage
Honor killings
Throwing acid in faces
Cutting of the hands of theives
Stoning adulterers
Misogyny
Terrorism

What does Islam the world offer to offset that?

Oil and Dubai.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Expectations, what if reality doesn't match your expectations? what if God punishing the disbelievers
is reality even though you don't accept or like it?

Only barbarians accept the premise that 'might makes right'.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I don't think their advancement was due to gaining knowledge from the Byzantine & Sassanid empires
as today all sciences are available to them but they're still lacking behind.

Where did their knowledge come from if not the more advanced but militarily weaker civilisations the Muslims conquered? And assuming for the sake of argument you are right, why didn't the Islamic Golden Age start when Islam was still confined purely to Arabia?

 

[England my lionheart]

I don't expect that the Arab peninsula can do it prior to Islam, they were weak, divided and ignorant,
Islam was the major part for their progress.

So as soon as they submitted kerching!,a large volume of knowledge decended on them,after all muhammed couldn't do it as he was illiterate.

 

[Augustus]

Oil and Dubai.

Dubai is not a positive... It might well be the worst of the lot.

 

[FearGod]

Only barbarians accept the premise that 'might makes right'.

Is it barbarian to put the rapist in the jail, and is it barbarian to issue harsh laws to prevent crimes from happening?

 

[FearGod]

So as soon as they submitted kerching!,a large volume of knowledge decended on them,after all muhammed couldn't do it as he was illiterate.

What do you mean by kerching?

 

[England my lionheart]

I don't expect that the Arab peninsula can do it prior to Islam, they were weak, divided and ignorant,
Islam was the major part for their progress.

Imru al qais seemed to do ok before Islam and under a deity that shares his name,his poetry is still revered so the idea that the arab peninsular was full of dunces is far from true.

 

[FearGod]

Where did their knowledge come from if not the more advanced but militarily weaker civilisations the Muslims conquered? And assuming for the sake of argument you are right, why didn't the Islamic Golden Age start when Islam was still confined purely to Arabia?

And why it didn't start in Europe before Arabs reaching it?

 

[England my lionheart]

What do you mean by kerching?

Means all of a sudden,kind of eureka moment

 

[FearGod]

Imru al qais seemed to do ok before Islam and under a deity that shares his name,his poetry is still revered so the idea that the arab peninsular was full of dunces is far from true.

Poetry isn't science, and no relation between lacking in science and dunces,
in the dark age Europe was lacking in science, does that mean the Europeans are dunces?

 

[England my lionheart]

Poetry isn't science, and no relation between lacking in science and dunces,
in the dark age Europe was lacking in science, does that mean the Europeans are dunces?

Al qais is regarded as an intellectual,so please explain how Islam developed this amazing science.

 

[FearGod]

Means all of a sudden,kind of eureka moment

I didn't say that they started science but they did a huge improvements on sciences.
How Islamic inventors changed the world

During the Golden age of Islam students were traveling to Andalusia and Baghdad
to gain knowledge, today Arabs are traveling to Europe to gain knowledge and we
can see great Arabian scientists, professors, surgeons ...etc working in the west, one of many is Adnan Mjalli who's starving to find the best cure for diseases.
Small drug company tackles big-time diseases

 

[FearGod]

Al qais is regarded as an intellectual,so please explain how Islam developed this amazing science.

2 words, a good leaders.

 

[Augustus]

I doubt the Muslims could have done it prior to their conquest of Byzantine & Sassanian territories. The elephant in the room is that the Islamic Golden Age didn't occur until the 8th Century when the Arabs controlled the majority of land formerly belonging to both of these empires and subsequently gained access to their accumulated knowledge.

That's probably a slightly misleading way to look at it. It wasn't really 'Arabs getting access to their knowledge' as most of the Golden Age figures weren't Hijazi Arabs anyway. They were Persians, Levantines, etc. just as they had been before the conquests, they just had a different overlord.

The main advantage of the Islamic Empire was that 1) A common language into which many texts were translated (mostly by Syriac Nestorian Christians) 2) A very wealthy society that could afford patronage of the arts and sciences (scientific advancement has always been tied to economics). The decline in scientific output of the Islamic Empires declined along with their decline in wealth and power, and the Europeans rose along with their improving economic fortunes.

 

[LuisDantas]

2 words, a good leaders.

So, in essence, you are saying that Islaam is perfect and would lead its people into academic excellence even today, were it not for the all-too-human (as opposed to divinely guided) flaws and limitations of the current (human) leadership?

 

[FearGod]

So, in essence, you are saying that Islaam is perfect and would lead its people into academic excellence even today, were it not for the all-too-human (as opposed to divinely guided) flaws and limitations of the current (human) leadership?

Again, according to the prophecy this should happen at the end of time, the disbelievers will lead the world and the Jews will take over Palestine, close your eyes and your ears and enjoy your stay on earth.

 

[LuisDantas]

Again, according to the prophecy this should happen at the end of time, the disbelievers will lead the world and the Jews will take over Palestine, close your eyes and your ears and enjoy your stay on earth.

Such a prophecy may or may not exist, but I have no idea why anyone would take it seriously.

On the contrary, I find it quite irresponsible, even criminal, to lend it any significance.

Reality is supposed to trump scripture when the two clash.

 

[FearGod]

Such a prophecy may or may not exist, but I have no idea why anyone would take it seriously.

Because prophecy is related to prophets, to me it's serious because I I don't believe the prophets were guessing.