Shad
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Not one example of a black man ever doing one thing wrong to a white woman.
Just link FBI crime statistics.
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Not one example of a black man ever doing one thing wrong to a white woman.
I was solely addressing the OP's analytical methods.Just link FBI crime statistics.
I was solely addressing the OP's analytical methods.
Does the FBI even have statistics on white women's
racist fear of black men? Doesn't seem they would.
But a motive driven by racism?FBI stats list crime along with demographic of the perpetrator and victim
But a motive driven by racism?
But a few anecdotes out of millions of interactions is just bias confirmation.Considering the thread one could established that based merely on perpetrator and victim. Unconscious blah something ism
But a few anecdotes out of millions of interactions is just bias confirmation.
If I were to carefully cull such anecdotes, I could use that rationale to prove....
- Black men are dangerous racists.
- White men are saintly.
- Black women are mathematicians.
- Asian women are quite tall.
- Scotsmen are fops.
Mrs Revolt is asian....the model minority....just don't ever cross
them. While they all know kung fu, at least the 5 step exploding heart technique would a quick & painless death.
Just ask @Wu Wei.
Scotsmen are whuskey swilling wimps in skirts with no nickers.But a few anecdotes out of millions of interactions is just bias confirmation.
If I were to carefully cull such anecdotes, I could use that rationale to prove....
- Black men are dangerous racists.
- White men are saintly.
- Black women are mathematicians.
- Asian women are quite tall.
- Scotsmen are fops.
I once heard a recording of a 911 call, where a black woman was railing about the shoddy quality of the meth she had just scored.- Black women are mathematicians.
Her family on her father's side is Muslim.Excellent. One more question..... is Mrs Revolt a Hindu or a Muslim? Or possibly a Buddhist? Or a Sikh (Punjab)?
I've worked with several Sikh engineers.Mrs Badger is an agnostic. She's not interested in religion at all. She grew up in Gravesend in a tough district called Northfleet. Gravesend is the 1st or 2nd largest Sikh community in Britain and has a very large Sikh temple there which can probably be googled since it could be the largest in Europe.
I only take Mrs Badger to Gravesend once a year now, it's the longest journey we undertake in a year at 30 whole miles distance.
And so we have an insular existence with our pets....... never been so happy. The OP makes me feel sad.......... for the OP.
Meh....sounds almost complimentary.Scotsmen are whuskey swilling wimps in skirts with no nickers.
So it would seem.I once heard a recording of a 911 call, where a black woman was railing about the shoddy quality of the meth she had just scored.
So, black women are meth addled mathematicians?
Tom
Maybe you missed where I specifically challenged your focus on scenarios where race was not an apparent factor. You seem to have in your mind "most white people have racial bias, therefore if a white person does x, it is safe to assume that they did it because of that racial bias. This is bigotry.
You seem to have in your mind "most white people have racial bias, therefore if a white person does x, it is safe to assume that they did it because of that racial bias. This is bigotry.
Some of us men like to get molested by women, ya know.
And now I learn a little more about you. Or are you just saying that your beautiful wife is not a dangerous racist but is white?
It is sad that some folks are so prejudiced that their extremism blinds them to more balanced reasoning.
Of course racism is sometimes an issue, if you can't tell that it is most likely to be racism, why should you assume it?
In theory, do you think it would be problematic to overstate the degree of racial prejudice that exists?
I asked a simple question, followed by a basic statement regarding the population dynamics of US society and you respond with self-righteous insults about how everyone is a biased, compassionless idiot except you?
Your approach is that unless everyone bows to your wisdom and accepts you are 100% right about everything then they are suffering from myriad personal failings that must be assumed to drive their every move. It would be nice to discuss the issue in a reasonable manner.
In light of this why should we assume that any issue involving people of different races is racially motivated, when most incidents of this kind are likely to involve people of the same race?
I assume that racism does play a part, but that starting from the assumption that every case must be racism is both illogical and harmful. Do you disagree with this?
Then you are mistaken in assuming that I do not believe such cases exist. Why you would assume that, I am not sure.[
I was clearly showing you instances where race has been a factor. You claim that there are individual instances where race may play a factor, and as I was saying which is historically as well as anecdotally have been proven, race in the experiences of various members of minority communities concerning law enforcement, race has been a factor.
But you are failing to make the necessary connections in order to assert that this racial bias is a causal factor. While I agree that the question how does racial biases play into everyday interactions, conflicts, and collaborations are important questions, you are making a leap with the OP. Either you cannot see that leap or ypu won't see that leap.Wrong. I think most if not all people have some sort of cultural bias. I know I do.
and that is a good well from which to draw. However, when you draw sweeping generalizations, it would behoove you to reflect on your own biases more.I've experienced racism from whites both in my adolescent as well as my mature adult life so like many other black academic professionals we tend to modify our behavior and adapt to these encounters.
Okay, but still not a reason to leap to the conclusions you have.I think the frustrating thing by me repeating myself to you in this case is that when I'm referring to implicit racial biases of this sort, how these biases manifest themselves I made the mention awhile back that it is done so on the subconscious level.
My experience supports the same conclusion.I have had enough sit down experiences with whites in my life where especially when alcohol is involved that 9 times out of ten a purely benign discussion tends to shift towards race. It is my experience that there are Caucasians that are preoccupied with race as much if not more than any other ethnic group, but of course there are outliers.
I agree.As far as every single encounter a white person has a with an African-American and it having a negative outcome of course I cannot prove every single instance it was purely racial, it would be foolish of me. The fact is plain and simple this country the United States was built on a foundation of racism and European centrist ideals and it is taking generations for us to do away with these definitions and standards for a more progressive approach.
Racism is never "sometimes an issue," racism is always an issue. Whenever you have a system where it advantages one ethnic group over another it creates a system of inequity, counter to the principles of the constitution. When bringing up issues of racism it is not "overstating" the issues of racism in the United States. Frankly, those who have no interest in discussing racism and solutions to rid our country (and world) of it, use phrases like that. We need to just call out the elephant in the room. Caucasians need to accept that their forefathers have created a system since the 1600's where they (their forefathers) designed a system where it created advantages for whites and disadvantages for non-whites, and even today we still feel the residual effects of that system despite the progressive changes in our country. When Caucasians as a whole understand how such a system can generate resentment among the people who have lived in such a disadvantaged system for centuries then we can begin the discussion.
All I'm saying is get to know OUR story before you make inferences of what you think is true. You cannot define my experiences as right or wrong based on your own perspective. This is not being self-righteous it is called "putting you in check of your prejudices."
No. Every person of color has a story. You made an earlier attempt to try and define what is a serious matter and what isn't. I'm saying you don't get to do that for me and the other 44 plus million African-Americans in the U.S. We have a story and these are our experiences, and you don't get to dictate what I should and shouldn't take serious. I can't help me checking you on your presumptive arrogance would amount to me being arrogant.
But I never really implied "every incident" I'm clearly identifying specific instances. For example in a high end store if an African-American individual is being engaged differently than anyone else in the store we can infer the potentiality of implicit racial bias based on the historical reference point of racial profiling in stores. So while you're trying to talking about every case I'm referring to specific instances. How about we stick with the examples I've displayed in this thread and not generated hypotheticals?
Stop assuming what I said and actually go back and quote where I said every single case. I'm really getting sick of you making an a** out of yourself by saying stuff I didn't say, and if I said it please for God sake quote me.
What does this even remotely mean? I mean if you don't have nothing logical and intelligible to add why even involve yourself in this discussion?