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'They 'are beginning to accuse President Trump over Iran

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by oldbadger, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    It's all Trumps fault. Climate change, Brexit, all of it.
    Some say he is a space-alien from the Naff Nebulous.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Leov's post further up might offer reasoning for this mess.
    And we, the UK, seem to be prepared to be a US puppy yet again.

    Nobody likes extremist Iran, but it is really being kicked towards conflict, I reckon.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Do you think that President Trump has handled this issue well?
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    He had a bunch of influential friends in the UK as well.
    But I didn't know about the above.
     
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    And it’s the theocratic government of Iran which is extreme, not the millions of ordinary Iranians.
    But they’ll get ‘bombed back to the Stone Age’ in a major conflict, as did the good people of Vietnam and Iraq.

    And Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan and Syria.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Trump reneged on a deal. It is said that he did this to spite Obama's peace initiative.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    I didn't bother to answer your pointless post because this is happening now, not 75 years ago.

    Time to wake up
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    I think you might be right.

    But folks will grasp propaganda when they want to.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Not everyone has the sort of short term thinking that USonians do.

    Unless someone invents solar powered fighter jets or wind powered warships, whoever controls the Gulf oil region will have a huge strategic advantage in the upcoming war. At the moment, the USA has that kind of strategic advantage. We are the dominant regional power.
    But neither Russia nor China want that, and that's why Iran is more likely to partner with them than the USA(who have been attacking Iran for decades).
    You might think that this is still the 80s, but it isn't.
    Tom
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    If we get a general election, then a new government could call the slate quits.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Yes.
    We boast such great technology but sadly we still cannot get surgical with our weapons.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Nope.
    They are more attractive. Better complexions. Etc
     
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    Thats conspiratorial, and is a fallacious position due to lack of evidence.

    But what Trump did say, was that the "deal" was entirely in Iran's favor -them essentially halting uranium enrichment for 8 short years, and gaining billions of dollars... In the mean time, Iran was repeatedly caught breaking the deal.
     
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    Trump is Teflon coated. Nothing will stick.
     
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    Evidence?
    Sources?

    Europe thought Iran washing OK.
     
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    Are you aware that the Republicans promised to renege on the deal before it was even finished? Making it into a partisan football?
    And Trump took that ball and ran with it, Putin cheering him on?
    Tom
     
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    They just talk tough and more talk, some fake action like bombing nothing important may follow but I doubt that.
     
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    From 2017, over a year before Trumps withdrawal from the Iran deal:

    Iran is violating the deal

    It is well established that Tehran has consistently denied IAEA inspectors access to military sites and other research locations. This is in direct contravention to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) and bipartisan legislation set out by Congress, which compels the president to verify that "Iran is transparently, verifiably, and fully implementing the agreement."
     
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    ALSO FROM THE 2017 ARTICLE:

    "To be sure, revelations about Iran testing the boundaries of the JCPOA and crossing the line into violation are not new. While many of these violations have not been disclosed by the previous U.S. administration, or by the IAEA, there is a myriad of information and analysis suggesting that Iran has previously failed to comply with several provisions of the JCPOA. It has twice been revealed that Iran exceeded the cap on heavy water mandated by the agreement, and has also refused to allow testing of its carbon fiber acquired before the deal was implemented. Moreover, it has also been reported that Tehran has found new ways to conduct additional mechanical testing of centrifuges, in clear violation of the JCPOA."
     
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