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'They 'are beginning to accuse President Trump over Iran

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by oldbadger, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    It started slowly.
    But it's gatheriong pace.
    As the Iran crisis grows many News bulletins (here) about Iran now begin with (something like):-
    'The Crisis that President Trump started when he pulled the USA out of the agreement with Iran'
    And it's building......... and building.......

    The fact that the UK was prepared to arrest an Iranian Oil Tanker in Brit wayers off Gibralter (for the US?) was our own stupidity.
    The fact that we did not immediately deter all British Flagged ships from going near Iranian waters was our own stupidity.

    But now it's building higher and higher, and as it does, folks over here need to look to blame somebody for triggering what could possibly be a most dreadful situation ...... blooming.

    And I recently heard (on radio) a politician point ouit that President Trump, in spite, busted the Iran-deal because it was an initiative of the 'Obama government'.

    And so, the nastier this gets, so the louder the shouts of blame........

    Opinions? Responses?
     
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  2. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Iran broke the nuclear deal 3 times in the first year when Obama made it with them in 2015. They continued to break it over and over for the next 2 years until Trump pulled out of the deal in 2018.

    Iran never intended to uphold their end of the bargain. If war comes, it's because they wanted it.
     
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  3. Shadow Link

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    Any policy allowing the bad actors of the prominent state sponsor of terrorism(Iran) to continue to expand its nuclear infrastructure would destructively be in comparison to putting on a blindfold and throwing a dart at a map of the world.
     
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  4. Howard Is

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    I guess after the Gulf of Tonkin, and the non-existent WMDs in Iraq, this incident has a bit of a smell for many people.

    Nothing to do with Trump though. Presidents don’t plan that ****.
    He would have to stop tweeting long enough to educate himself.
     
  5. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    Trump's actions have done nothing to help the situation.
     
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  6. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Sources?
     
  7. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    What rhetoric is that?
    Much of the World is beginning (slowly) to claim that President Trump started the whole upcoming mess.

    And much of the (European) the World seems to claim that President Trump created the whole insecure trouble just to spite President Obama's successful peace initiative.

    The UK has been totally stupid in recent weeks, but our politicians now look to the original cause of the crisis.

    :shrug:
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    I think it's going to get a lot worse, and very quickly.

    I wait to see how President Trump will handle big trouble, when and if it comes. I think it's coming.....
     
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    And that somebody is Trump. He's earned it.
     
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  10. pcarl

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    I think that's exactly right. As soon as Obama was elected Trump joined the 'birther' movement. Like others thinking there's no place for a black man in the White House. Trump attended a White House Correspondence Dinner in which Obama humiliated Trump. As president Trumps' plan was to totally wipe out Obama's legacy.
     
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  11. Notanumber

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    They are looking for an easy scapegoat.

    It is easier to blame President Trump than it is to blame the real culprit.

    Just like it was easier to blame Saddam Hussein after 911.

    What would the free world be like if it had Iran pointing nuclear missiles at it?
     
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  12. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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  13. Audie

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    As a brit, and with a fair history of brit
    political stupidity to reference, was not
    your churchill accused of trying to start
    something with that german guy?
     
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    Just mp's directing negative attention away from themselves using our convenient scarecrow. You're welcome. If it keeps Britain out of a war then I'm glad.

    What do Iran's neighbors say? Its true that Iran may get a nuke, but we have lost some of our credibility. Its time for its neighbors to say something. If they won't, then we should draw back. If they don't feel threatened, then we have a problem with credibility which Iran can and will press.
     
  15. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    But Saddam, nasty as he was, did not have WMDs. Somebody lied and deceived.
     
  16. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Blooming heck.
    Now that is an honour.
    Thank you.
     
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  17. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Oh, I think you've got your own history to trawl.
     
  18. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Why is it so hard to fathom that Iran may have behaved badly, and continues to behave badly?

    ...What good things has Iran done ever..?
     
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  19. Audie

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    He'd have had nukes if them pesky Israelis had not bombed his
    reactor.

    He did use poison gas against kurds. No large
    arsenal of such was found. (Probably not
    all the buried tanks and migs have bern found)

    Boiling it all down to "lies" is what is
    known as "facile".
     
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    Brilliant! Analytical!

    "I am rubber, you are glue,
    bounces from me and sticks to you!"
     
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