The Smear Campaigns against the Occupy Wall Street Movement

[Sunstone]

From what I have seen, it appears that the article is trying to cover up the fact that the protesters are gathering in large groups waiting for the police to screw up and telling flat out lies as to why people were arrested.

Source please.

Source of what?

Don't be disingenuous. Give your sources.

 

[YmirGF]

Don't be disingenuous. Give your sources.

One might ask the same of the "Occupy", um, err, "movement", Phil.

Given that it is now two months since these intellectually challenged individuals started their "protest", we have not heard a single official idea emerging from them. I am a part of the so-called 99% and these people sure as hell do not speak for me. I'm more inclined to label them the < .05% lunatic fringe and quite unworthy of any further attention.

 

[Shermana]

When the rich get richer, get tax breaks and still ship jobs overseas, are corrupt and greedy, and people don't have jobs, are getting poorer and poorer, food and all going up, what do you expect? People are gonna push back, they should pay attention. I'm no socialist, but come on.

Maybe if there were less crippling regulations that punish the Middle Class business owner and deter the Rich from investing alike, (And maybe some protectionist regulations on overseas outsourcing like how other countries do) there'd be less jobs going overseas. It costs $100 million more just to do business in California with 500 employees than in Arkansas, imagine the difference in India. Food price has very little to do with actual supply and demand, price cartels dominate everything just like Standard oil in the oil days. And it's the Democrat-policy-pursuing Government that allows these things.

The way these people are pushing back is not exactly in the right direction, if they want more and better paying jobs, they should be lobbying Washington to make changes, not protesting banks who get their permission slips from Washington to manhandle Wall Street like it was their brothel. Are they hoping if they protest enough they'll stop misbehaving? What exactly are they expecting to happen anyway? Are they hoping for it to turn into riots or something? Don't they find it odd that Leftist Billionaires and North Korea are both supporting their cause officially?

 

[Sunstone]

One might ask the same of the "Occupy", um, err, "movement", Phil.

Given that it is now two months since these intellectually challenged individuals started their "protest", we have not heard a single official idea emerging from them. I am a part of the so-called 99% and these people sure as hell do not speak for me. I'm more inclined to label them the < .05% lunatic fringe and quite unworthy of any further attention.

Unworthy of any further attention? Paul, you'll be the last person on earth talking about them. You know you will.

 

[YmirGF]

Unworthy of any further attention? Paul, you'll be the last person on earth talking about them. You know you will.

Hahahahaha... Unlikely, Sunstone.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I would go for trade barriers and reasonable regulation as far as safety and security goes. Otherwise the goverment really needs to butt out of free enterprise and let the market innovate and grow like it was allowed to in the past rather than trying to run and control things they know nothing about.

As it turns out as I see it, excessive and unreasonable regulation and litigation is a prime cause of the loss of our previous ability to self-sustain ourselves and as a result has artificially created a dependence on foreign products for our needs. This forced companys to look elsewhere outside the U.S. This is because complience issues get ever increasingly expensive and restrictive with no end in sight. The corporations discovered they liked the lower overhead and easier regulation elsewhere and obviously profits *soared. Unfortunately common Joe Schmuck back in the U.S. is left out of a previously good paying job as a result of all this while it's givin to a cheaper counterpart in another country.

*Sad we couldnt keep that here.

 

[Alceste]

Source of what?

If you mean the headlines saying one thing and the reality being something completely different, let me go fetch a link to the thred right here on RF that shows it...

Here is the link:
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2644041-post30.html

I think you misunderstand what you're seeing there. According to the article the protesters were locked in by the bank until they could be arrested. The video shows a bunch of people locked in a bank waiting to be arrested. What happened before the video was shot is unknown. Do you have any good reason for believing they were lying? Our you pick the bank's version of the story arbitrarily?

 

[Alceste]

One might ask the same of the "Occupy", um, err, "movement", Phil.

Given that it is now two months since these intellectually challenged individuals started their "protest", we have not heard a single official idea emerging from them. I am a part of the so-called 99% and these people sure as hell do not speak for me. I'm more inclined to label them the < .05% lunatic fringe and quite unworthy of any further attention.

That's right, go back to sleep. Nothing to see here. Just a global uprising toppling entrenched governments like dominoes.

 

[Shermana]

The OWS is toppling the government? Really? Where? I must be out of the loop.

 

[Alceste]

The OWS is toppling the government? Really? Where? I must be out of the loop.

OWS is part of a bigger picture that includes the Arab Spring, Green Revolution, the unrest in Greece, etc. It's early days yet, and these things take time.

 

[Shermana]

OWS is part of a bigger picture that includes the Arab Spring, Green Revolution, the unrest in Greece, etc. It's early days yet, and these things take time.

The Arab (Wahabi) Spring was a whole another ballgame. The unrest in Greece is not what toppled the government, they were protesting FOR the very thing which toppled their government, they were whining about government austerity measures. Like I implied earlier, it seems that the OWS are basically trying to set up for riots or something...

 

[Alceste]

The Arab (Wahabi) Spring was a whole another ballgame. The unrest in Greece is not what toppled the government, they were protesting FOR the very thing which toppled their government, they were whining about government austerity measures. Like I implied earlier, it seems that the OWS are basically trying to set up for riots or something...

You're welcome to your POV. I see things differently because I have been reading commentary from within each of these movements rather than only reading commentary ABOUT the movements from corporate news networks.

I don't want to argue, since whether we look at events in isolation or look at the big picture is kind of arbitrary, but I am curious, where in the world did you hear that OWS is trying to start a riot? That's ludicrous.

 

[YmirGF]

That's right, go back to sleep. Nothing to see here. Just a global uprising toppling entrenched governments like dominoes.

LOL. I think what really IS amusing, Alceste is that you actually might believe that that is true.

OWS is part of a bigger picture that includes the Arab Spring, Green Revolution, the unrest in Greece, etc. It's early days yet, and these things take time.

Ok... let me get this straight... Glenn Beck has been right all along? Who fricken knew?

 

[YmirGF]

I don't want to argue, since whether we look at events in isolation or look at the big picture is kind of arbitrary, but I am curious, where in the world did you hear that OWS is trying to start a riot? That's ludicrous.

Personally speaking, though I will not predict wholesale riots in the streets, I DO think that once the "silent majority" begins to totally ignore the #Occupy <Fill in the Blank> groups, said groups may well be driven to commit acts of naughtiness to get back into the public consciousness. In all fairness, they are getting nowhere now... so....

 

[Reverend Rick]

These folks cannot find a job when 91 out of a 100 people are employed. They are not the 99% they are the 9%.

I'm not very worried about them toppling anything when they cannot even find a spokesperson or produce a list of demands or solutions.

One thing I can tell you for sure, if George W. Bush was President, they would be protesting the white house.

Take over the world? I say, bring it on!

 

[Alceste]

These folks cannot find a job when 91 out of a 100 people are employed. They are not the 99% they are the 9%.

I'm not very worried about them toppling anything when they cannot even find a spokesperson or produce a list of demands or solutions.

One thing I can tell you for sure, if George W. Bush was President, they would be protesting the white house.

Take over the world? I say, bring it on!

What makes you think they don't have jobs?

Seriously, where do you guys get this stuff? Do you just make it up, or what?

 

[Alceste]

LOL. I think what really IS amusing, Alceste is that you actually might believe that that is true.

Ok... let me get this straight... Glenn Beck has been right all along? Who fricken knew?

From About Us | OccupyWallSt.org

"Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #ows is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people are writing the rules of an unfair global economy that is foreclosing on our future."

 

[Alceste]

Personally speaking, though I will not predict wholesale riots in the streets, I DO think that once the "silent majority" begins to totally ignore the #Occupy <Fill in the Blank> groups, said groups may well be driven to commit acts of naughtiness to get back into the public consciousness. In all fairness, they are getting nowhere now... so....

They're already being beaten, pepper sprayed, arbitrarily arrested, having their private property seized, been smeared in the media, been menaced, intimidated and otherwise harassed by the police on a constant basis for an entire month. Peak attendance in New York has been in the tens of thousands on days when a large demonstration is planned. When exactly do you think they're going to get violent?

 

[YmirGF]

When exactly do you think they're going to get violent?

I was careful to not say "violent", Alceste. My guess is when they notice that no one is paying them the slightest attention.

 

[YmirGF]

From About Us | OccupyWallSt.org

"Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan&#8217;s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #ows is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people are writing the rules of an unfair global economy that is foreclosing on our future."

But that is just vapid rhetoric, Alceste. They have achieved absolutely nothing in "fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process". This "movement" has spread, to be sure, but in terms of real numbers, since that initial spread it certainly seems to be shrinking, not growing.