Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Yeah I think this one assumes the popular view of the Abrahamic god.
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The God Paradox
- Thread starter Neo Deist
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Yeah I think this one assumes the popular view of the Abrahamic god.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
We are all equally powerful in our minds.
Even as powerful as god.
If that is all that is meant by god being all powerful, then it is a worthless empty boast.
To each their own
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
More importantly it assumes god is bound by logic, reason, physics, etc.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Well if there where a god not bound by such things, then how could we even know it exists?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Now you're talking....
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Faith?
From philosophy class years ago...
1. God is all powerful. There is nothing God can't do.
2. God can make a mountain so heavy that He can't lift it.
3. Therefore, God is not all powerful because He can't lift that mountain.
I have no idea why I posted this. I just like thinking about topics such as this.
Sure but God can unmake the mountain and wipe your memory that it ever existed.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
That is based on man's ideas about God.From philosophy class years ago...
1. God is all powerful. There is nothing God can't do.
2. God can make a mountain so heavy that He can't lift it.
3. Therefore, God is not all powerful because He can't lift that mountain.
I have no idea why I posted this. I just like thinking about topics such as this.
God cannot do what God decides he cannot do.
The God of the bible declared that he is accountable to himself.
It is not that God cannot -but that God will not.
That which he cannot lift is his word unless he makes allowance for it to be lifted under certain conditions. He considers all before he gives his word.
God can make a mountain he cannot lift if he declares he will never lift it.
He can also then lift it if he gave conditions in his word to allow for such.
I will cannot and will not lift it... Unless...... Until.....,etc.....
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
The problem is that it separates God and some kind of world or nature outside of God.From philosophy class years ago...
1. God is all powerful. There is nothing God can't do.
2. God can make a mountain so heavy that He can't lift it.
3. Therefore, God is not all powerful because He can't lift that mountain.
I have no idea why I posted this. I just like thinking about topics such as this.
For God to create a mountain, it assumes that there's a place where God can put a mountain, and it's a place that it's not him/her/it. So already at this point, the premise is that God can't be something. God isn't the "other" thing, the world, where this mountain is placed in, and the premise here is that God isn't and can't be that thing. So the "paradox" is already set up at the point of: "God can make a mountain..." In other words, God can't make a mountain. God can only be the mountain.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Sure but God can unmake the mountain and wipe your memory that it ever existed.
What existed?
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
That one's been around about 100 years, I think! The actual fallacy is that the premises (1 and 2) contradict one another.
But they were trying to make a point about the idea of omnipotence. For example, could God draw a three-sided square and paint it red and green all over? The usual answer is no, because the only meaningful sense of "omnipotent" is "able to do anything that's logically possible".
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Isn't everything?
ak.yonathan
Active Member
I think that the solution is simple. God can violate logic. God can and cannot lift the mountain at the same time.
First Baseman
Retired athlete
From philosophy class years ago...
1. God is all powerful. There is nothing God can't do.
2. God can make a mountain so heavy that He can't lift it.
3. Therefore, God is not all powerful because He can't lift that mountain.
I have no idea why I posted this. I just like thinking about topics such as this.
Neither do I. It is a rather uninteresting and unintelligent false dichotomy, a pitiful attempt at logic.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
That's a very specific myth I haven't heard before. Where'd you get that one?
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
Can God give us one decent candidate for President? I mean Lordy Lordy, what gives?
PackJason
I make up facts.
I actually wish the Kenyan Muslim could be President for another term.
Stupid 22nd Amendment.