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RIP, Christopher Hitchens

Photonic

Photonic

Ad astra!
tarasan said:
I know because #

a) you meant it.

or b) you were playing devils advocate....

more likely than not you saw the bind you were in and took advantage of the 2d conversation you were having, I mean what else am I to believe? given that you made no hint before you were called on it??
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If you know me better than I do after 2 and a half pages of a thread, I applaud your inhuman capabilities. You can accept my way of making a point to them or be on your merry, I care not which.
 
gnomon

gnomon

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I have friends who supported the invasion of Iraq. Argued with them many times. They held fallacious reasons for supporting the war. 9/11 and WMD's. Hitchens argued different reasons. I disagreed with his as well.

But like my friends Hitchens was not a policy maker. To believe that Cheney, Bush, Rice, etc. relied on Hitchens is absurd.

I hope when my friends die I don't say good riddance due to my disagreement over the war.
 
Photonic

Photonic

Ad astra!
gnomon said:
I have friends who supported the invasion of Iraq. Argued with them many times. They held fallacious reasons for supporting the war. 9/11 and WMD's. Hitchens argued different reasons. I disagreed with his as well.

But like my friends Hitchens was not a policy maker. To believe that Cheney, Bush, Rice, etc. relied on Hitchens is absurd.

I hope when my friends die I don't say good riddance over my disagreement with the war.

Should I join a religion in order to develop that attitude.
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I don't think you have to be religious to hold this attitude, but it clearly doesn't hinder it.
 
tarasan

tarasan

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Photonic said:
If you know me better than I do after 2 and a half pages of a thread, I applaud your inhuman capabilities.
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so you do not know if you said you were DA to get out of a bind?:sarcastic

and all I have to go on are your words and how you treat others on this forum, if you treat people badly then people will think badly of you. if you really were not then be civil in your conversations from now on.
 
Photonic

Photonic

Ad astra!
tarasan said:
so you do not know if you said you were DA to get out of a bind?:sarcastic

and all I have to go on are your words and how you treat others on this forum, if you treat people badly then people will think badly of you. if you really were not then be civil in your conversations from now on.
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I challenge you to find where I have been uncivil in my approach besides my dissenting advocation.
 
Renji

Renji

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Blackdog22 said:
While I can appreciate the kind gesture you are putting forth, I would imagine that Hitchens would in no way want the prayers or forgiveness for what he was honest with himself about.
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I know. What I did is just a simple gesture of giving some kind of respect, and less of asking God of something (although it is a form of prayer, but anyway, leave it to the "invisible pink unicorn" up there if He will grant it. :D), take it as something that is symbolical.
 
Renji

Renji

Well-Known Member
Photonic said:
When Christopher Hitches died, his book God is not Great was trending on twitter, so a bunch of Christians threatened to kill the people that were making it trend, and kill people at Twitter for allowing it. So twitter banned it from the trend list.

Ironically, it proved the premise of his book right.
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Gawd, these "christians" need some review of the moral values taught in their churches.:facepalm: They give Christianity a bad name.
 
Two-bit guru

Two-bit guru

Active Member
Lawrence said:
Just read about it. I'm no atheist/skeptic or stuff but as my faith has taught me, a true Christian never rejoices over a death of someone. RIP and I just want to say a blessing to him: Through the merits of our prayer, let the fire of the Holy Spirit bestow upon him. May God forgive him for any errs that he may have committed. We humbly pray that You may receive him into your loving arms. This we ask through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, Amen.
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It only took about 20 posts for an argument to evolve. Just sayin' ...:D
 
Matthew78

Matthew78

aspiring biblical scholar
CynthiaCypher said:
It wrong because all nations deserved the right to self-bettemination. The US should not be in the business of regime change, Hitch advocated that and he was wrong. Want me to get into what his opinion was of the Arab Spring...pretty racist stuff there
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I used to agree with this New Deal liberal "containment" mentality. We should not be in the business of regime change; nations have the right of self-determination. Well, guess what, Cynthia, sometimes the very regime change that you and other progressives seem to dislike has led to the death of millions. The problem is that there have been a number totalitarian "Marxist" regimes which have been guilty of murdering millions. I can cite sources for you to personally study. This is what bothers me about progressives; they whine about "regime change" and U.S. "imperialism", yet conveniently overlook the deaths of millions of people murdered in these Stalinist regimes.

In my opinion, the policy of "containment" was a moral failure that resulted in the deaths of several millions, whereas "rollback" was the higher moral ground. The New Left and New Deal progressives have blood on their hands; the former for their support of "socialist" leaders and the latter for trying to "contain" these nations as opposed to actively changing them. People like Noam Chomsky have the biggest blood on their hands and they deserve to be shamed for their support of totalitarian monsters. To his great credit, at least the late Murray Bookchin opposed the totalitarian regimes of North Vietnam and Cuba.
 
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