POLL: Should Trump have Shaken Pelosi's Hand?

[McBell]

Forever and ever, ... and icing on the cake: the black guy (Obama) and the woman (Hillary) never were.

And?

I assume you have a point beyond revealing your -isms....

 

[Terry Sampson]

And?

Don't know much about narcissists, do you? He'll take the wound to the grave with him.

 

[Stanyon]

Okay, that's done. What will Trump get impeached for (again) next?

Jaywalking?

 

[Quintessence]

Okay, that's done. What will Trump get impeached for (again) next?

Hopefully nothing, because he'll get voted out of office. But I'm not optimistic about that happening. Not when America wasn't set up as a proper, representative democracy to begin with. Not when most Republicans have opted to systematically erode the vital checks and balances of this country.

 

[shmogie]

As has only been explained about a trillion times, a crime is not required for impeachment. Perhaps a trillion-and-one times might make it sink in -- though I'm not holding my breath.

"Treason, bribery, or OTHER high crimes and misdemeanors". I think I will just believe the Constitution, as opposed to the opinion of a Canadian.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

"Treason, bribery, or OTHER high crimes and misdemeanors". I think I will just believe the Constitution, as opposed to the opinion of a Canadian.

Yes, do that. But while you're at it, look up the meaning of that word "misdemeanor." One possible answer you might find is this: "a nonindictable offense, regarded in the US (and formerly in the UK) as less serious than a felony."

And then look again at the Constitution. The word "misdemeanor" appears to have been used quite deliberately.

Dershowitz himself (who formerly argued just as I do) acknowledges that his new-found position is in the scholarly and legal minority opinion. And that would be for a reason, I think.

 

[wandering peacefully]

I'm not sure Trump did refuse her hand. If you watch a video from behind, he is handing her the booklet and sort of looking down and towards Pence and back towards the front. I don't think he saw her hand. But she sure should have been the one to act like an adult in any case.
Why can't we have someone besides Pelosi all the time? She needs to be replaced with new blood.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Yes, he should have. It would have been very diplomatic of him.

 

[shmogie]

Yes, do that. But while you're at it, look up the meaning of that word "misdemeanor." One possible answer you might find is this: "a nonindictable offense, regarded in the US (and formerly in the UK) as less serious than a felony."

And then look again at the Constitution. The word "misdemeanor" appears to have been used quite deliberately.

Dershowitz himself (who formerly argued just as I do) acknowledges that his new-found position is in the scholarly and legal minority opinion. And that would be for a reason, I think.

Misdemeanor had a different meaning at the time of the founders than today.

There were misdemeanors that could result in the death sentence then.

Even if we use today's standard for misdemeanor, not one can be found in the articles of impeachment.

The whole issue is dead, kaput. Just a waste of time and money. As was predicted in this forum two years ago, by me.

 

[shmogie]

Most people who have done business or come in contact with Trump over the past 40 years hate his guts.

That is a ludicrous assertion. You haven't a clue as to who most people who have come into contact in the last 40 years are.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That is a ludicrous assertion. You haven't a clue as to who most people who have come into contact in the last 40 years are.

And I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't be in the slightest interested in how many people and businesses he has dreadfully harmed in his many bankruptcies -- people I rather suspect, having families to feed themselves, would not hold him in exactly the highest esteem.

 

[shmogie]

Clinton's stupid blow job is NOTHING compared to what Trump has done.

This seems to be our McCarthy era.

Well, perjury and obstruction of justice are serious felonies, Clinton committed them both.

According to the house democrats, Trump didn't commit any crimes, except ones they made up.

 

[Subduction Zone]

"Treason, bribery, or OTHER high crimes and misdemeanors". I think I will just believe the Constitution, as opposed to the opinion of a Canadian.

And you still do not understand that phrase.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Toddler Trump....

I prefer baby Trump. I mean if I was him I'd have a small one on the desk in the oval office.

 

[shmogie]

And I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't be in the slightest interested in how many people and businesses he has dreadfully harmed in his many bankruptcies -- people I rather suspect, having families to feed themselves, would not hold him in exactly the highest esteem.

Actually, I am very familiar with them. I was a Cruz supporter and used them when in conversation with a Trump supporter.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And you still do not understand that phrase.

It is a pretty vague statement. Open to a multitude of interpretations.

To this day nobody has pointed out anything specific in the Constitution that Trump supposedly violated. Even laws have paragraphs and subsections.

High crimes and misdemeanors? I figured the only one who knew was King George and I suspect it was whatever he wanted it to be.

 

[sooda]

Well, perjury and obstruction of justice are serious felonies, Clinton committed them both.

According to the house democrats, Trump didn't commit any crimes, except ones they made up.

LOLOL. You just keep on believing.

 

[sooda]

It is a pretty vague statement. Open to a multitude of interpretations.

To this day nobody has pointed out anything specific in the Constitution that Trump supposedly violated. Even laws have paragraphs and subsections.

High crimes and misdemeanors? I figured the only one who knew was King George and I suspect it was whatever he wanted it to be.

High crimes are only committed by people in governance.. old English law.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I prefer baby Trump. I mean if I was him I'd have a small one on the desk in the oval office.

Um, I think that's what Clinton did....

 

[Twilight Hue]

Um, I think that's what Clinton did....

I will say that Clinton did know how to laugh at himself.