And you will see what is not there when you are trained to be paranoid and fear that
So, you're just overly sensitive when people do not explicitly endorse your preferred takes on various subject.
And of course, YOU got educated. Funny how that works.
And some people mistake forming opinions based on biased media presentations as 'learning.'
And claiming to have learned all one needs to at a library or to have "common sense" does not mean you actually learned anything, or have any sense at all. Of course, claiming to be smart and not 'educated' is a bit of a quandary - I have encountered folks - on forums just like this one, making the same kinds of claims - who claim to be smart and to have "studied" things for years or even decades, yet cannot provide more than caricatures re: evolution (and science in general). I can name names AND provide links to both their claims of "studying" for years or decades as well as to their laughable claims. But I think I might get in trouble for that.
I get that it is a thing to bash higher ed because of the fear of "indoctrination", but that is just political nonsense ("I love the uneducated"). Over the years, I have asked probably hundreds of people who have claimed that professors 'tell you how to vote' or are 'openly Marxist' or try to 'disprove god' or 'hate America' etc. to provide actual examples from their own experience and/or to name names, and at BEST, I've gotten a couple of links to conservative websites with lots of anonymous claims, or to YouTube videos of the same, but never a single actual example. Sort of like the people that claim Obama was the REAL racist. Asked a guy recently who made that claim to back it up. After me asking about 20 times, he finally wrote that there are 'hundreds' of examples, but the "best" one was when he called the white cop that arrested Henry Gates (black Harvard professor) for trying to 'break in' to his own house 'stupid.' Wow, totally racist. I suspect that the "best" examples of professors telling people how to vote and such are on par with that, especially since it seems to be the same sorts of people making the claims.
There is so much dogmatism and group-think in conservative media and the religious communities that I value their opinions less and less as times goes by.
I'm guessing your evidence of all this would be... books by David Horowitz and whiny chumps on YouTube.
Whatever - believe what you have to to keep the fantasy alive. Like the ark story:
Bison are clean, meaning, according to some, that 7 pair of them were to be on the ark. According to the Wiki, "...European bison can weigh from 800 to 1,000 kg (1,800 to 2,200 lb)." Lets go with an average - 2000 lb.
Just the 7 pair of the bison kind represent about
28,000 lbs of bison. The Wiki tells us that "
European bison feed predominantly on grasses... an adult male
can consume 32 kg of food in a day." Creation dot com claims they were on the ark for
364 days.(not the 375 JW does - and yes, I am aware of the wiggles that the YECs use - they could have been babies, blah blah blah - not buying it - none of that is stated in Genesis).
So, just for the bison, 600 year old Noah (I read somewhere that those ages are actually months, which would be more reality-based, putting Noah at 50 when he built the ark) had to load some 3.5 million Kg of food - 8 million pounds of food. I found various estimates for water consumption - let's say 10 gallons/day. About 50,000 gallons. Now, one will be tempted to claim that it was raining for 40 days, so they didn't need to store water!
Ok, but what about the 324 days they were on the ark and it
wasn't raining?
Bottom line, just for the Bison-Kind, we need space for
them (~10 feet long, ~4 feet wide) 40 sqft/bison - 560 square feet for the Bison Kind (that is if they were packed like sardines; also, ~6 feet tall, so ~3300 cubic feet).
Now back to that food and water - a gallon of water takes up about 0.13 cubic feet, so 6500 cubic feet of water.
For the food, for simplicity I will use a bale of hay as a reference - I found on the webs that "The
dimension of a small bale held together by three strings is approximately 16” high x 22” wide x 44” long and usually weighs 100lbs. " - so, 8 million/100 = 80,000 bales, at 16x22x44 hay bale size = ~10 cubic feet = 800,000 cubic feet.
So, 800,000+6500+560 =
807,060 cubic feet JUST FOR BISON-KIND.
According to biblestudy.org, the total volume of the ark was
1.5 million cubic feet - using an 18 inch cubit. AIG prefers a 20.4 inch cubit -
I will just pad the volume up to, say, 1.8 million cubic feet.
But that is just open space - the ark had 3 floors, and you would need internal bracing, ramps/stairways, enclosures, etc. - all of which take up space. None of the ark size estimates I came across even mentioned any of that - but let's say all that accounts for, say 70,000 cubic feet -
so we are back down to about 1.73 million cubic feet.
So, 1.73 million cubic feet total usable ark volume - 807,000 cubic feet for animal, food, water storage for the bison kind =
923,000 cubic feet left...
That is,
almost HALF of the entire internal volume of the ark is needed JUST to fit in the bison and its food and water!
Then we have cattle - 14 of them.
Deer - 14 of them.
Elk, moose, reindeer - 14 each of them.
And the elephant Kind? Just 1 of them (but to account for all of the Elephantids, gomphotheres and such - that will require a good amount of post-flood macroevolution!), but they are bigger and eat more than any of the above.
And dinosaurs - 1 seismosaurus kind and the ark is keel-up..
Bottom line - it really does not matter one hoot if the ark could have floated on paper, or even in real life -
it could not possibly have held all it needed to by virtue of Jehovah's command to bring living creatures “of every sort of flesh, two of each" or 7 pairs of clean animals, no matter what the smaller ones were.
Even if I omit the water storage and arbitrarily half the amount of space needed for the Bison-Kind, this is DEVASTATING for a reality-based ark tale.
The creationist is forced to remove themselves from the arena of mere plausibility of the ark floating, and rely 100% on God magic to make their tale possible, and thus, creationism is NOT reality-based, or scientific.
Oh - and a question - why are these critters "abominations"? Didn't Jehovah create them? Why did Jehovah create abominations?
Deuteronomy 14:1-29
“You are the sons of the Lord your God. You shall not cut yourselves or make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead. For you are a people holy to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.
“You shall not eat any abomination. These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, the deer, the gazelle, the roebuck, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope, and the mountain sheep. ...
ADDENDUM: I just realized I made a math error - a bale of hay is closer to 8.6 cubic feet, not 10 - I don't feel like re-doing all the calculations, but I also don't think it really matters - even if the result is that the Bison-Kind, their food and water only take up 1/4 of the ark, it STILL shows, when one considers all of the other large mammal-Kinds that need to be accommodated, that the ark story CANNOT actually do what it is described as having done, whether it 'floats' or not.