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Featured Massive star two and a half MILLION times as bright as sun...vanishes

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by dad, Jun 30, 2020.

  1. Revoltingest

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    Oh, well...I tried.
    Stellar evolution is very much related to General Relativity (GR).
    LIGO is due to the cosmological model (based upon GR).
    It's a useful tool to observe colliding black holes.
     
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  2. sun rise

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    God created the stars and everything as science has explained it. Science explains the how of creation.
     
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  3. QuestioningMind

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    So you think that the scientific method is a flawed method for determining how the universe functions. And you've decided that the standard model for stellar evolution is fatally flawed, simply due to the fact that there is a single bright star that suddenly dimmed and we have yet to find an explanation for it.

    Okay, thanks for clarifying. You're one of those people who uses computer technology to communicate on this site who doesn't believe in the scientific method. That's about all I needed to know.
     
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  4. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    It would be better if you tried to demonstrate that with some facts, rather than state it as a bald assertion.

    But of course, how could you? :rolleyes:
     
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    Well then, dad, how about you put your money where your mouth is and show us how your different state past/different state distant universe idea can provide an explanation.
     
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  6. QuestioningMind

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    He did. They Are.

    You missed the HOW part, silly. THAT'S what science tries to explain... HOW did the stars get created. IF your god did the creating, why are you SO VERY threatened by science trying to figure how how it was done? The only reason I can think of is that you're scared to death that if science figures out exactly HOW it was done that they might also find evidence that there was no god involved in creating them.
     
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    bye​

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    I find it hard to believe that some scientist somewhere wouldn't speculate that perhaps maybe, opaque matter had obscured the light at some point?
     
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    Science is clueless because science never had the answers. But regular people can sense it.

    The Stars Are Going Out - TV Tropes

    Revelation 6:13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth like unripe figs dropping from a tree shaken by a great wind.

    (You notice they say unripe. "Ripe" stars are those who go nova/supernova. Stars aren't supposed to just... quit)

    [​IMG]
     
  10. lewisnotmiller

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    Science was once unable to create a flying machine too.
    There were a lot of false starts, and some painful corrections.

    Science is a process, not a result.
     
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  11. dad

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    In theory, yes. Theory only observed and tested in this fishbowl of the solar system and area. While some observations from deep space are thought to confirm aspects of GR, that could not be said to be true if distances were not known. Distances in far space are not known. So you don't have the math.

    It observes ripples in space time in the fishbowl.
     
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    No. Science uses beliefs for all explanations of what the stars are all about. Nothing else. The belief based models they preach are absolutely different than Scripture.
     
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    Not at all. There is a plethora of reasons I think that the standard model for stellar evolution is wrong. The massive star claimed to be 2 and a half million times brighter than the sun up and disappearing totally is just one indication in the news.

    You are one of those people pretending (or ignorant enough to actually believe) that computers have anything to do with stellar evolution. That's all we need to know.
     
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    Well, the OP claims that the star has vanished, basically. Have you some bald face assertion that it didn't?
     
  15. Dan From Smithville

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    Like that will ever happen.
     
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  16. Dan From Smithville

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    Like that will ever happen.
     
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    Once we see that a belief based story is wrong, I see no need to scurry to find some other story. I like God's story of creation. It ain't going nowhere.
    Oh, and do explain how not knowing what time itself is like in the far universe makes it a 'different state universe'?? (or do you just like to misrepresent people?)
     
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    You thought that was your business? Well, anyone with a belief in God would know that the 'how' proposed by science is wrong in the extreme. If God wanted to reveal how He created it all, He would have done so. That basically makes it none of your business!

    Threatened? Ha. Disgusted and wishing to expose the lie would be more accurate. Are you threatened by Mother Goose tales? Don't flatter yourself.

    Then you have no contact with reality. God already settled that question thousands of years ago, He said that despite all the learning of man they can never come to a knowledge of the truth.
     
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    Couldn't last the first round eh. No problem.
     
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    That would be something in their little bag of possible explanations. The object is massive, so probably many times (they might claim) bigger than our sun? Also 2 and half million times brighter! Suddenly, poof. Not even traces of it. I guess a lot of that sneaky 'opaque matter' must have snuck up undetected real fast eh?
     
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