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Featured Massive star two and a half MILLION times as bright as sun...vanishes

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by dad, Jun 30, 2020.

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  1. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Yep I heard about novaless collapses of stars. Apparently according to science articles I came across, this would be the second time that it happened if it's determined to be the case.

    It's pretty fascinating.
     
  2. Tiberius

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    Let me know when you've got more than feeble attempts to be witty, okay?
     
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    Well, I will say this in agreement, that, although Jehovah God is not controlling this planet right now (as we determine from Scriptures such as Isaiah 11:9, Matthew 6:9-10 & Revelation 11:18), God could still be exerting control over the Universe....but for what purpose, I'm not sure. Unless, it's to begin fulfilling Jesus' prophecy of the End, at Like 21 esp.vs. 25....."signs in the Sun, moon and stars"; there certainly is "anguish of nations"!

    Here's something you might like: explanation of the "roaring of the sea" (Luke 21:25).... Tie in Isaiah 57:20.
     
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  4. exchemist

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    Naturally.

    But God did it of course.

    Why?

    Ah, we are not to ask such questions.

    Great, that explains it all, then.

    :rolleyes:
     
  5. PruePhillip

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    The funny thing - SCIENTISTS WOULD LIKE TO BE WRONG. IT MEANS THERE NEW
    SCIENCE OUT THERE TO DISCOVER.

    But... it's probably swallowed by a black hole or something...
     
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    When a male thinks and claims he is informed, then he designs a machine and then as soon as he owns the control of the button pushing, then the response should be exactly what he claims, seeing he invented design as a machine with a formula.

    If it did not work it is titled an experiment and then he is meant to claim I was wrong....if he is a scientist.

    If he is not a scientist, and just an egotist, he will never claim he is wrong, for his group mentality is to own control coerce and force....always was.

    Hence his own mentality was already prophecised and warned about when the man of the apostasy those who pretend that God by the teachings God stone philosophy does not exist in a thesis.

    THE ST one.

    I, symbolism in science was the intensity of magnetisation equalled one/stone by the gases of the ST....which is AIN 0 zero cold empty space/pressure oblivion.

    Oblivion he said by being natural zero, cold zero, empty zero and pressure oblivion owned stone.

    Stone created its owned light burning gases....why you are all wrong.

    THE ST
    THE I ST….about one information.
     
  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Distances in space can indeed be calculated.
    But tis true that I personally don't have the math.
    That's @Polymath257's department.
     
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  8. Polymath257

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    For close stars, it is simple parallax. And since the angles are so small, the actual math is very simple.

    For more distant stars, there are a variety of methods. For something like the case of the OP, it is more a matter of finding the distance to the galaxy the star is in. This is usually done by finding the red shift and using the (known) relation between red shift and distance.

    In response to the OP, of course some of our theories could be wrong. In this case, we have a phenomenon for which we don't have an explanation. That is a *good* thing: it gives us another opportunity to learn more about the universe.
     
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    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I suspect that the only thing acceptable to some people will be
    actually extending a giant tape measure from Earth to the star
    in question. Anything less is "just a theory".
     
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    So, your solution to the mystery is that God made the star disappear. Now, let's hear your religious theory as to why and/or how God made the star disappear.

    If you cannot, then it becomes obvious that: Naturally, science Dad is clueless as to why.

    Maybe I can give you a path to explore. Your God needed to eliminate the distant start in order to get the stuff He needed to make a deadly virus.
     
  11. dad

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    You misunderstand. If God wanted us to know how He created it all, we would know, so since He did not it is not our business. That includes science, and you and I. Nothing to do with posting or forums.


    Many of them might help develop star war type weapons also, so? It doesn't matter what personal beliefs exist, the point is that if they promote the belief based fables of science they are pushing falsehood. Not only that but falsehood that diametrically opposes the truth as revealed by God.

    We have seen babies form and have a pretty good idea how it happens. That does not mean there was no creation, and that reproduction is not part of that creation! If the stars recycle or have new birth and death, so what? That does not mean all stars were made that way! Then there is the question of what is really born out there or not. If you just observed a system for say, 20 years, and have claims that a star was born a million years ago there, or that one will be born in a million years, that is worthless.



    So what? If molten rock was also formed in a different nature (different melt points and properties) then we could have had stuff made that is NOT how it happens today! You need to stick to what is known and observed. If we saw an island formed in the last few hundred years for example, great. We know how it formed. That does not give you cart-blanche to claim all similar looking islands formed that way. In the same way just because we see that people only live a hundred years now does not mean Noah lived a hundred years also.

    He says He will show us if we ask. He never said godless proud men in their own wisdom could know it all.

    Big deal. He also allowed us to know how to light a campfire, harness power from water, and many other things about life on earth. That does not mean your blind faith conjecture on origins has any merit whatsoever.

    I am not threatened by lies. I threaten lies.
     
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    Since origin so called sciences are lies and deceit, why would He share that with anyone?


    No. He did not work that way.

    The Serpent lied to man. He tried to get us to doubt the creator. Science does the exact same thing. Coincidence?
     
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    Dishonest canard and strawman argument. Whatever we play with in the fishbowl has to do with how things work here.
     
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    So who or what is the mental puppet? God? Science?
     
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    As I said, consistently ignorant.
     
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    The sky daddy that lives in your head that you control by moving its strings. It will do and say whatever you want it to.
     
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    ROFL... you're just FULL of unsubstantiated claims, aren't you? But I guess that's about all you've got top argue with. So sad.
     
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    Let us know when you have more that fanatical beliefs for your foolish fables, OK?
     
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    Not sure how those verses apply to God having set up nature. Isa 11 for example is prophesy.

    The heavens are Thine, the earth also is Thine; The world and all it contains, Thou hast founded them (Psalm 89:11).

    It sounds like God set it all up.


    Luke is once again prophesy. Yes there will be signs in the heaven, In the very end, the stars all go out for example.
     
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    Ecc 8:17
    Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it.

    Don't blame me.
     
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