Bishka
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dawny0826 said:I DO believe that Good comes from God.
I also believe that there is a devil who blinds us...and deceives. I've stated this quite a few times.
For the past two posts:hug:
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dawny0826 said:I DO believe that Good comes from God.
I also believe that there is a devil who blinds us...and deceives. I've stated this quite a few times.
But if there is only 1 higher power... Oh, I forgot. Despite what Christ stated, satan can heal for the good too.Jeffrey, the gods and goddesses of Wiccan and Pagan religions are NOT the God of Abraham. I'm sorry. They didn't hang on a cross for my benefit.
You used the term satanI NEVER used the term evil, Jeffrey. NEVER. And I've never said anything negative about Rebecca. Just because I didn't PM you, making an inquiry doesn't make me less of a Christian. I didn't think that it was any of my business.
Show me the post I stated that.If you believe that Christ is false...that's you're right.
Show me where I said that alsoI for one believe whole heartedly in the same God that Abraham believed in. And my God is not a God of wrath or violence. My God hung on a cross in complete agony for my sins. Again...I ask you...do think that there was vengeance or hate in that blood stained face?
Show me where I stated that I believe in more then 1 GodAnd if you find satisfaction and peace and happiness in the Wiccan god and goddess...then good for you. You continue the spiritual path that you feel most comfortable with. I think no less of you as a person.
Agreed.I will continue to stand firm on my belief and love in Christ. I'm a sinner. I make many mistakes but my love and belief in Christ will be constant. My Jesus died for me.
Show me where I said different.When I lay hands on an individual...I do so in the name of Jesus Christ, my Lord and Saviour. Any healing that occurs has occurred because God Almighty has willed it and the Holy Spirit within me...healed that individual. It's not about me at all.
And who's to say that it is the Christians who are the blinded ones.... Evil, no. Blinded, yes. Some, at least.dawny0826 said:I DO believe that Good comes from God.
I also believe that there is a devil who blinds us...and deceives. I've stated this quite a few times.
jeffrey said:But if there is only 1 higher power... Oh, I forgot. Despite what Christ stated, satan can heal for the good too.
Jeff said:Please show me how this is evil.
Aleister Crowley taught in his book, "Do What Thou Wilt," this moral code, which he seemed to be famous for.Jeff said:do as ye will
I do not believe in the devil. The only evil there is is in the hearts of some people.beckysoup61 said:For the past two posts:hug:
jeffrey said:I do not believe in the devil. The only evil there is is in the hearts of some people.
But if there is only 1 higher power... Oh, I forgot. Despite what Christ stated, satan can heal for the good too.
You used the term satan
Show me the post I stated that.
Maybe the false god christ warned about is todays christianity.
Show me where I said that also
Show me where I stated that I believe in more then 1 God
Show me where I said different.
Show me the posts I have done this.You will jump all ove rmy back because of this, but you know what, I don't care. You seem much more interested in trying to disprove Christ and the Bible, you pasttime, not mine.
So, a person who's healing does not last is from the devil.... How many people in your church that have had cancer, went into remission, but later died of that cancer? I'm not saying your church is of satan, just your formula is faulty.Yes, Satan can give a false healing and it may seem real, but it mocks Christ and HIs healing. Satan's healing doesn't last. Ever seen any of those TV-healers?? We all know they are fakes, I found a study (cant' remember where), but this guy went around folloiwng a TV healer and found out that after those 'healings' they were worse off, and I believe it was because it was a 'fake healing'.
Have a good night!As for me, I'm off to work on a huge final project for school.
Good night
jeffrey said:And who's to say that it is the Christians who are the blinded ones.... Evil, no. Blinded, yes. Some, at least.
My contention is there is ONLY one God. There can be many aspects of this God. If a Wiccan prays to a God and Goddess, to me, it's all the same, just different faces of the same. But that is MY belief. To me, God is not just male, but female also. He his different thing to different people. I don't see God as jealous. Why should he be? What does he have to be jealous of? I don't see God as a mass murderer of kids. I don't see God has portrayed in the Bible.dawny0826 said:I think you know very well what I meant.
Not to describe you and your wife. I felt as if you were implying that I'm less Christian because I didn't PM you...asking about what happened between you, Rebecca and Scott. I don't think it's any of my business. I've also made it clear that I'm not into slapping labels upon people...but I DO believe that there is a very REAL Satan, Jeff. And I do believe that Satan's ability to trick and deceive is very real. I will not deny my beliefs to appease you or anyone else. You may not like what I believe or agree with me but I will not conform to appease others who feel otherwise.
I believe it was insinuated when you stated this...
Did you not say that the Christian God as viewed by most Christians is PETTY, VENGEFUL and HATEFUL?
Isn't Wicca a polytheistic religion?
I felt you were insinuating something different. I was under the impression that you no longer acknowledge God in the same light as most Christians do. God to you...is the very same as any other god. So, if you were to lay hands on an individual...you're not exactly doing so in the same manner that a Christian would. If you would...then my apologies but I have a hunch that when one from another religion...a religion that does not acknowledge the God of Abraham...lays hands on an individual...their faith isn't in the God of Abraham.
jeffrey said:From another thread, a well known member stated that Wicca was evil. I myself find just the opposite. I find Wiccans to be, as a whole, more open minded, less judgemental, more loving, more "Christ like" then alot of Christians, less bigoted. How could this be evil?
As do I. As do others who believe different.dawny0826 said:Faith, Jeff.
I have faith.
jeffrey said:My contention is there is ONLY one God. There can be many aspects of this God. If a Wiccan prays to a God and Goddess, to me, it's all the same, just different faces of the same. But that is MY belief. To me, God is not just male, but female also. He his different thing to different people. I don't see God as jealous. Why should he be? What does he have to be jealous of? I don't see God as a mass murderer of kids. I don't see God has portrayed in the Bible.
I see Wiccans as loving everything of this earth... as Christ would have wanted. Loving this creation... As Christ would have wanted. I see Wiccans as more "Christ like" then most Christians...
Glad you have a direct phoneline to him.Adstar said:Because God said so. We Christians are to have nothing to do with wicca. I trust in Gods will on the matter.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
who I don't really see as being gods but methods of trickery from a certain Satan
jeffrey said:Glad you have a direct phoneline to him.
beckysoup61 said:And whose to say he doesn't?
dawny0826 said:According to the Word...Jesus Christ is the phoneline between man and God.