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in a basic sense, nothing can not be according to God's plan and foreknowledge. Attributing the human notion of "will" on to God will lead to misunderstandings.
Do you think God allowed Israel to forsake God because good came out of it?
I think that trying to assign "allowed" gets into all sorts of philosophical headaches. God "allows" people to make their own choices even though he knows what those choices will be.Do you think God allowed Israel to forsake God because good came out of it?
Did Israel forsake God?
Well, this is not a debate section. Seems a presumptuous question though.
The TaNaKh (not “Old Testament”) actually says that some of Israel turned to other gods but that there is always a righteous remnant among them that do not.The Old Testament talks about Israel seeking other gods.
The TaNaKh (not “Old Testament”) actually says that some of Israel turned to other gods but that there is always a righteous remnant among them that do not.
I am sad to say too many did not. You see any Sadducees lately? Or Karaites? They were once gantser k’nackers. But they abandoned HaShem, now they’re gone. Many Jews converted to other faiths. Their descendants have been lost as identified Jews. The Northern Kingdom followed other gods. They are lost and won’t be restored until Shiloh comes.Do you think from the Exodus to now only a remnant of Israelites followed God?
I am sad to say too many did not. You see any Sadducees lately? Or Karaites? They were once gantser k’nackers. But they abandoned HaShem, now they’re gone. Many Jews converted to other faiths. Their descendants have been lost as identified Jews. The Northern Kingdom followed other gods. They are lost and won’t be restored until Shiloh comes.
It isn’t a question of numbers. It is a question of following HaShem. Don’t do that and you’re lost. Do it and you can never be lost. Shalom.
According to one understanding, initially, what became Christianity was just a sect of Judaism populated by a small group of people who followed a charismatic leader. They were excluded by the mainstream and branched out to people of other religions to build numbers because the mainstream wasn't buying in. There is even a belief that the particular texts and practices/beliefs were established by Jews in the mainstream to create a more visible difference between these believers and the majority who rejected Jesus.Do you think Jews who mix Jesus with being Jewish converted to other faiths? I think that the difference exists for historical reasons, but in the first century, it was how could you be Gentile and believe in Jesus? The Jewish Christians didn't have a different religion.
Jews who mix Jesus have converted to the Christian religion, even though they remain halakhicially Jewish. They simply aren't practicing Judaism any longer. They may call their religion Messianic Judaism, but it is not a Judaism. It is Christianity, or at best, a syncretism.Do you think Jews who mix Jesus with being Jewish converted to other faiths? I think that the difference exists for historical reasons, but in the first century, it was how could you be Gentile and believe in Jesus? The Jewish Christians didn't have a different religion.
Jews who mix Jesus have converted to the Christian religion, even though they remain halakhicially Jewish. They simply aren't practicing Judaism any longer. They may call their religion Messianic Judaism, but it is not a Judaism. It is Christianity, or at best, a syncretism.
According to one understanding, initially, what became Christianity was just a sect of Judaism populated by a small group of people who followed a charismatic leader. They were excluded by the mainstream and branched out to people of other religions to build numbers because the mainstream wasn't buying in. There is even a belief that the particular texts and practices/beliefs were established by Jews in the mainstream to create a more visible difference between these believers and the majority who rejected Jesus.
Oh, of course it does. When the rabbis kicked the heretical Christians out of the synagogues, meaning that it was no longer a sect of Judaism, it went on to form a new and distinct religion. Again, the Jewish sect of Jesus believers no longer exists -- it was a heresy that got kicked out forever.The historical separation between the two beliefs doesn't mean that they aren't practicing Judaism.
Of course it does. What do you get when you systemically don't follow the basic principles and tenets of a religion and uphold principles entirely foreign and even heretical to that religion? Answer: A different religion/worldview.The historical separation between the two beliefs doesn't mean that they aren't practicing Judaism.
Based on 2 Sam. 11:11, Uriah had the status of a rebel who deserved death.When David killed righteous Uriah, was it God's will?
Someone once told me, before it happens, it's forbidden, after it happens, it's what G-d wanted.When Israel forsook their God, was it God's will? When a person sins, is it God's will?
I was also taught, every drop of milk that makes it into the carton you buy in the store was destined to you from the moment the world was created. Maybe there isn't anything except for G-d's Will.Is everything God's will, or is there also coincidence?
No, it´s more likely the will, i. e. the interpretation of the priests and misused by secular powers.Is everything God's will, . . .
Nice point. And the expression 'Israel' can be applied in various ways. Just to say, there is the nation with geographical boundaries and there is a group of people as well with variances, such as lineage and affiliation.The TaNaKh (not “Old Testament”) actually says that some of Israel turned to other gods but that there is always a righteous remnant among them that do not.
It would seem that if everything were God's will there would have been no rebellion against Him. Would a father encourage his children to be rebellious and not listen to him when he knows better? Deuteronomy chapter 1 helps to understand this. He instructs. He 'knows' the possibility is there for disobedience, Look at Deuteronomy chapter 1, it really makes clear that while God instructs, He also allows people to choose what they will do. If He knew in advance what they would do, why bother telling them what to do and what the penalties are if they disobey?When David killed righteous Uriah, was it God's will? When Israel forsook their God, was it God's will? When a person sins, is it God's will? Is everything God's will, or is there also coincidence?