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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by chinu, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. chinu

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    Are all atheists of same nature, naturally ?
     
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    From @chinu 's usage, it is clear that it is something that is not expected to be held accountable for its actions, or at least that somehow declares itself theism but should not be perceived as such.

    Maybe it is akin to the logic that makes ISIS "not true Muslims". Or it may be just a confused expression of the idea that theism "means well" and therefore should not be criticized.

    Hard to tell.

    Ultimately, the distinction between "true" and "false" theists must accept the responsibility for making that call, if it wants to be respectable.
     
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    Indeed, everyone should reserve the right to point out that theism does not deserve special protection.

    There is no clear separation between your "false" theists and "true" ones, now is there?

    That is exactly why this thread does not make any sense. You can not both reject and at the same time protect the legitimacy of calling out theists for their flaws and hypocrisy.

    We should not have to pretend. Far too many of us were pressured into it anyway. Proselitist theism is a plague, a serious and destructive mistake.
     
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    All these peoples are false-theists.
     
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    Do you even have a point then?

    I never expected your approval for doing what I already knew that I must: confront expectations that I somehow "should" be a theist.

    Do you realize that you are being self-contradictory to a huge level in this thread?
     
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    All already defined that in one of my previous reply to you.
     
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    There are atheists who do not necessarily doubt that existence. Some of us just do not have much of a compatibility with the idea, for instance.

    Pretends? How so? And to whom?

    I don't think that this definition of yours is compatible with what you declared in most of your posts about "false theists".

    Your sound quite sincere, not liars. Maybe you have read too much Islaamic literature and are therefore confused about what atheism is?

    What an odd duck. Are you sure that those people even exist?

    Not always. But they sure can be a pain, and even dangerous.

    Am I supposed to know what you are talking about? You seem not to care anymore, frankly.
     
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    In that case, what are you complaining about?

    There seems to be nothing _left_ for you to complain about.
     
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    Those are just specific arguments. They do not make the fact that theism created the need for atheism any less true; they just express some of the details of how that became possible and necessary.
     
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    Then, frankly, you seem to be just wasting our time to feel wise on a flimsy - and false - pretext.
     
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    When I said that I am complaining something ?

    I don't think that asking a question is complaining something.
     
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    You are welcome to understand what you like to :)
     
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    Your questions are of the "why won't atheists just leave theists alone" variety.

    That is a complaint. A highly hypocritical one, at that.
     
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    If you are saying that you are repented from being hypocritical and will try not to cause further harm, that is welcome.

    If you are not, then you are just wasting my time a bit further, and that is _not_ welcome.
     
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    Read the thread on humanism.. Its on point.. If you are a Christian its an important read..
     
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    Both, Theists and Atheists can ask this question.
     
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    Actually, I am saying, or will like to say.. whatever you are comfortable with.

    I am welcome, or not, you decide :)
     
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    Act of false-theist to attain an attention of other people.

    Now, false-theist is in trouble.

    Whereas, Theist/true-theist need not to attain any attention. Because the one who got God, need not anything else, or in other words he/she already got everything by default.
     
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    They all are false-theists.
     
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    Again, Victim of False-Theists.
     
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