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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by chinu, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. chinu

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    Than, what made atheists to oppose it ?

    Answer carefully ! :)
     
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    The first words by the first atheist, "wait a minute..."
     
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    Disagreeing about what should and should not be deified... and then failing to respect those differences of opinion. This happens among all peoples, regardless of (a)theistic identification.
     
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    I feel the ways and scenarios in which theists insist on trying to invoke the idea of God are what makes many atheists opposed to the ideas(s). I'm sure this differs somewhat from person to person.

    But in a nutshell... theists make atheists oppose their ideas. If the theists didn't have the ideas in the first place, there would be nothing to oppose.
     
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  5. chinu

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    It’s not the concept of Atom bomb.
    What is the problem ?
     
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    Lack of verifiable proof.
     
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    I’m not sure the concept of theists and atheists makes much sense in the context of the first ideas of gods. Nobody would have been theist or (meaningfully) atheist at that point by definition. (That said, I think the terms are more trouble than they’re worth in pretty much any context but that’s a different topic :) ).

    We don’t even know if the first people to come up with the concept will have definitively believed it to be true. They might have just raised it as a possibility, one some people will have dismissed while others will have taken it further. We’re talking about such distant history, long before any kind of records survive that all we have is (largely pointless) speculation.
     
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    Being told to subscribe to the concept?

    If someone tells me they carry on conversations with their teddy bear and their teddy bear speaks to them, it's of no consequence to me unless they start telling me to listen to the teddy bear.
     
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    Theists. They are the ones who came up with the idea.
     
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    That the concept lacked sufficient evidence to convince or sustain their belief.
     
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    insufficient evidence to support the claims. This applies to all of the various gods proposed so far.
     
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    ESPECIALLY, if they tell you that you will go to hell and be punished mercilessly for eternity, for NOT listening.
    Generally speaking, "theists" are really nice people, until they find out that you're not a believer....amazing how quickly that smiley-face can get flipped upside down.
     
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    If theists created the concept of God it was based on the fact that individuals who chose to name those "other voices" in their psyche and who shared those messages found value in a community that honored the role of such individuals to shape their understanding. This is the role of the shaman or other spiritually gifted individual in an appreciative group.

    Looking at this experience in terms of objective qualities is a supremely difficult but important task. Basically it is an effort to get at the nature of our being, our souls and our existence. But once the various theistic approaches formed up, there comes with that the ability to critically assess such approaches. With the rise of "show me science" religion has been challenged in a much deeper way than ever before and the atheist is one who cares to focus on substantiating that challenge.
     
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    But, what is the problem with atheists ?
    Theists are not forcefully imposing their ideas on atheists.
    Why not Atheists stay away from Theists and all their ideas, or concepts and mind their own businesses ?

    What a kind of jealous/envy is this with somebodies ideas ?
     
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    Theists created concept of God for themselves, for their own sake.
    Dear, what made you think that by doing this, theists are making any kind of application into the "High Commission of Atheists" on this earth, and are waiting for the approval after a background check ? :)
     
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    Lets talk about Today.
    You can talk about today, if not past.
     
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    Who told to subscribe ? I don't think any theist did, even in the past.
     
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    Why to oppose, or jealous ?
     
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    What made you think that by doing this, theists are making any kind of application into the "High Commission of Atheists" on this earth, and you MUST run a background check ? :)
     
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    I don't think any theist ever told this forcefully to any atheist, unless atheist went to ask.
    If atheist don't like the idea, than why not leave it ? why jealous ? why oppose ? :)
     
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