How did sex start?

[TagliatelliMonster]

Not porn. Perfect love making in a perfect world and you reduce it to porn?

Wait... porn is NOT perfect love making?

That tells me something about your misunderstanding about what sex is intended to be.

Biological phenomena don't have "intentions". At best, they have "circumstantial function".

Evolution: " Two chimps have mindless sex and a human baby pops out." Boring.

No, that is not what it says at all.

And kinda gross

Hey, it came from your own mind....

Two perfect humans frolicking in Eden? That's beautiful and pure and even Holy.

Kinky

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Those that believe in Creationism are an excellent example
of the process of evolution at work.

Mankind has been capable of rational thought since time immemorial.
However it has always been tempered by the Irrational.
Including the belief in Gods, magic, ghosts and the many other figments of his imagination.

While invention and imagination are vital components of an evolved mind.
we have reached only a stage in development towards a fully rational mind,
A mind that can distinguish between make-believe and reality.

We are at that stage of evolution where there is a demonstrable difference between those have made that step.
and those that have not.
Creationists are a clear example of those that are being left behind in this evolutionary race.

Most have minds that are fully equipped to think rationally, and see make-believe for what it is.
but they choose not to do so.

Fortunately the process of evolution is continuing as always, and the direction is towards rationality.

This of course does not answer the question as to, if there is or was, a creative force that established the universe.
At this stage we have no means of knowing. but it certain that our attempts at defining such an entity have failed so far.

 

[Tiberius]

We are in Creationism forum!

Evolution and creationism, I thin you'll find. There is a place for REAL science here.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Neanderthal woman from Gibraltar and a dark skinned European homo Sapien

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YeY You found my long lost sisters

 

[gnostic]

Pseudo-science tells, that the first life in Multiverse was primitive one-cell organisms.
There was no male-female distinction. How that has happened and when?
This cannot be a million years-long evolution, because the very first sex must have happened in one single second: the female organ was penetrated by the male organ. The very first time in history! Was it a good one, or a disappointment?

What does the “Multiverse” have to do with everything else you have been saying?

Why bring it up?

 

[gnostic]

So, are you saying we aren't descended from primates?

No, we aren’t descendants of primates.

We are primates, always have been, just as we are all mammals.

 

[Irate State]

My grandmother was not an animal.

Non sequitur, but funny nonetheless.

 

[exchemist]

Ever notice how boring the evolution story is?
Compared to a perfect garden and the two naked firstborn of creation having perfect love making.
God's story is so much more appealing.

And aeroplanes are much less appealing than flying carpets.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

And aeroplanes are much less appealing than flying carpets.

Yet apparently, at least slightly more effective at getting people where they're going. (I'm going only by the data, however, which isn't at all romantic.)

 

[Subduction Zone]

The title says it all:

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

My grandmother was not an animal.

Much to the contrary -- not only was she an animal, her grandparents were also animals, and her grandchildren (you included) are animals.

 

[Tiberius]

Yet apparently, at least slightly more effective at getting people where they're going. (I'm going only by the data, however, which isn't at all romantic.)

Princess Jasmine seemed to find it romantic...

 

[YoursTrue]

Pseudo-science tells, that the first life in Multiverse was primitive one-cell organisms.
There was no male-female distinction. How that has happened and when?
This cannot be a million years-long evolution, because the very first sex must have happened in one single second: the female organ was penetrated by the male organ. The very first time in history! Was it a good one, or a disappointment?

Interesting question. I suppose it happened somewhere with something evolving in a branch or two or three? of the evolutionary tree. Just joking...

 

[YoursTrue]

you have a problem with the idea that man is part of the animal kingdom? we do fit inside the definition

We can act like animals, that is true. But we are not animals. Despite what Darwin says.

 

[YoursTrue]

Those that believe in Creationism are an excellent example
of the process of evolution at work.

Mankind has been capable of rational thought since time immemorial.
However it has always been tempered by the Irrational.
Including the belief in Gods, magic, ghosts and the many other figments of his imagination.

While invention and imagination are vital components of an evolved mind.
we have reached only a stage in development towards a fully rational mind,
A mind that can distinguish between make-believe and reality.

We are at that stage of evolution where there is a demonstrable difference between those have made that step.
and those that have not.
Creationists are a clear example of those that are being left behind in this evolutionary race.

Most have minds that are fully equipped to think rationally, and see make-believe for what it is.
but they choose not to do so.

Fortunately the process of evolution is continuing as always, and the direction is towards rationality.

This of course does not answer the question as to, if there is or was, a creative force that established the universe.
At this stage we have no means of knowing. but it certain that our attempts at defining such an entity have failed so far.

Come to think of it, or rather come to ask about it, are humans capable of more rational thought than animals, such as bonobos, cockroaches and cattle?

 

[YoursTrue]

No, there was never a first human being. There was never a human being born to a nonhuman mother.

May I ask how you know this?

 

[Mock Turtle]

Come to think of it, or rather come to ask about it, are humans capable of more rational thought than animals, such as bonobos, cockroaches and cattle?

Why not do some research? You might find examples like these - even if not conclusive:

Dogs Might Be More Rational Than Humans - human life
Ants More Rational than Humans - An Animal Rights Article from all-creatures.org
Apes can think far more like humans than we thought, study finds | The Independent | The Independent
Are animals as smart, or as dumb, as we think they are? (phys.org)

 

[YoursTrue]

Why not do some research? You might find examples like these - even if not conclusive:

Dogs Might Be More Rational Than Humans - human life
Ants More Rational than Humans - An Animal Rights Article from all-creatures.org
Apes can think far more like humans than we thought, study finds | The Independent | The Independent
Are animals as smart, or as dumb, as we think they are? (phys.org)

Could be humans are more emotional and so rationality (such as justifying actions) is a bit more controversial.

 

[YoursTrue]

Why not do some research? You might find examples like these - even if not conclus
Dogs Might Be More Rational Than Humans - human life
Ants More Rational than Humans - An Animal Rights Article from all-creatures.org
Apes can think far more like humans than we thought, study finds | The Independent | The Independent
Are animals as smart, or as dumb, as we think they are? (phys.org)

So dog, ants, and apes think more than humans, according to what I think you are positing. Maybe the word rationality is not a good one here.

 

[Mock Turtle]

So dog, ants, and apes think more than humans, according to what I think you are positing. Maybe the word rationality is not a good one here.

I think you need to read them all. Some non-human species seem to have better abilities in some ways than humans, when we are often selective as to which faculty we use. We are not always rational, particularly when we do need to be. It's just that we still don't know enough about the behaviour and abilities of so many species as to categorically say what they are about - given that the purpose in their lives obviously doesn't mostly coincide with human ones. That is usually, but as one of the articles at least mentions, dogs (and often other pets) will tend to become part of a family so as for their aims to mesh with humans. Their protective nature being an example, or their understanding of human moods and such, and their ability to show their concern.