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Featured How can the Jew reject, Jesus, Muhammad, Bab and Baha'u'llah?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Tony Bristow-Stagg, Dec 30, 2020.

  1. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    How is this possible?

    Israel is the centre of the Faith in One God.

    Stands to reason God chose the Centre point of all God given Faiths. Stands to reason they would not last, if they are not of God.

    Israel has millions of pilgrims each year going to give praise to One God.

    Jews and Christians, inclusive of people from many other previous faiths and Muslims also inclusive of people from many other previous faiths and Baha'is inclusive of people from many other previous faiths, one and all go to pray to One God.

    Is it Biblical that all Faiths will become One in God?

    How do all Faiths with One God, not see the One God?



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  2. Rival

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    Well... your prophet says we're satanic...

    How many Manifestations of Holiness, how many Revealers of the light everlasting, have appeared since the time of Moses, and yet Israel, wrapt in the densest veils of satanic fancy and false imaginings, is still expectant that the idol of her own handiwork will appear with such signs as she herself hath conceived!
    (The Kitáb-i-Íqán)
    www.bahai.org/r/570360520

    So let's just go with that.
     
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  4. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    Sorry could not help it, I really did not think the other thread would be allowed.

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  5. WalterTrull

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    Probably for the same reason they reject me.
     
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  6. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    But what if God's warning about Satan is our own choices.

    Tell me how that is not the same as what I can read in the Tanakh, about the choices Jews have Made.

    Baha'u'llah has also challenged every faith in the same way. How else do we question self if we are not challenged to do so?

    I am welcome and open to a frank discussion on this, that warning is applicable to me and I still face that warning.

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    Strange question...

    Because this is reality for All religions..

    Why do Christians reject buddha?
    Why do muslims reject baha'u'llah?
    Why do Hindus reject moses?
    Why do baha'i reject apollo?
     
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    Why should they accept all these people piggyback ridding on them and appropriating their religion?
    Let's begin there instead of later, after the fact, after this person and that person took what they think the Jews teach and made new religions loosely based on Judaism.
     
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  9. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    I personally see that is the strange stance people take.

    All people are free to quote why that would consider that is a reality, should be a stack of scriptures available for them to quote where a Messenger tells followers to reject another Messenger.

    I await the postings of those proofs.

    Also you have not asked a Baha'i as to Apollo, who says there is a rejection, it may be there is an explanation.

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    To me the answer is very simple.

    In the same way that the Muslims reject Baha'u'llah, and Christians reject Muhammad and Baha'u'llah, so do the Jews reject Jesus, Muhammad and Baha'u'llah.
     
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  11. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    That is a good question, maybe they would like to answer.

    Personally I see the God of the Jews gave all the Mesengers and the Messages and thus the issue lays in personal choices.

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    How can the Jew reject, Jesus, Muhammad, Bab and Baha'u'llah?

    I don't see a problem, as long as each person phrases his opinion as his opinion and not as fact
    IF phrasing opinion as fact THEN one should realize it's "lack of respect" + "abundance of arrogance"
    Both qualities "Jesus, Muhammad, Bab and Bahaullah" never told us to develop
     
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    Ok. Do baha'i reject Apollo?
     
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  15. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    So do you see that is the most likely cause?

    Are you saying by posting a provocative video, that is is a man's choice as to accept or reject that all these faiths have come from the One God?

    You only posted a video without comment.

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  16. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    How can I reject what I do not know?

    Baha'u'llah has explained that God inspires people in many ways. Baha'u'llah has said all Names and Attributes come from God.

    However Apollo came to be worshipped as a God, has been lost in time.

    "Apollo was a major Greek god who was associated with the bow, music, and divination. The epitome of youth and beauty, source of life and healing, patron of the civilized arts, and as bright and powerful as the sun itself".

    I see they are great attributes.

    The key is, we now can see the world in a different way, science clears up many things.

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    It's my answer to the constant missionary effort towards us.
     
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    It's true that all of them go and pray for one god since they're monotheist, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they all pray to the same god. To simply put it, the former religion does not see the latter religions as believing in the same God as theirs. While the latter religions see their God as being the same one as the former religions. By "God" I'm also referring to the religious teachings of their own respective religion.

    Because that is just your belief based on the teachings of your religion. Why would a religious person believe in the false teachings of someone they believe(based off of their own religious teachings) to be a false prophet.

    Here's an analogy. Look at the people who believes the Earth is flat, being a disc-like shape and compare it to those who believe that the Earth is spherical in shape. They both believe that we all live on the same Earth, some form of gravity exists and space does exist, but their explanation of what/how those actually are, differs from each other.

    Or how about this one. Take Thor and Loki. If looking at those two from the Marvel comics perspective, they are the same gods as the ones seen in Norse mythology. But from the Norse mythology perspective, the Marvel Thor and Loki are not literally and figuratively the same gods.

    This is why just about everyone has their own concept of what and/or who is God, even if two theists both claim to be of the same religion.
     
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  19. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    It can be seen that it is God calling the Jews to fulfill their destiny! The Covenant is then seen to be fulfilled.

    Though that is the quandary of Faith.

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  20. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    So you are saying the perception is that the former religion holds to their view of God, but does not except the refreshed view given by a later Messenger.

    Proverbs 20:12 Ears that hear and eyes that see— the LORD has made them both.

    I wonder if this is material or spiritual eyes and ears talked about?

    Proverbs 27:20 Death and Destruction are never satisfied, and neither are human eyes.

    Well we can consider the human eyes are never satisfied, so it must be spiritual ears and eyes that are talked about in the former verse.

    Regards Tony
     
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