Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
It is logical to me that the universe specifically required forethought by a creative intelligence, but that still leaves the question of the basic nature of the creator.
Some believe a creator was not necessary to cause that which presently exists, but they are not certain what was necessary -and usually are not considering what caused "the singularity" to exist in the first place.
As the Big Bang produced the building blocks of physical life forms on earth, they then needed to become ordered to produce life. It is reasonable that the nature of the Big Bang could cause things to happen in the necessary order, but our own example shows that creative influence also exists -and we cannot say it did not exist prior to life on earth. We also cannot say it did not exist prior to the singularity and Big Bang.
It can be said, however, that it is "natural" for "nature" to produce self-aware, intelligent, creative life.
It is logical to me that a self-aware, intelligent, creative life form must have existed before our universe -due to its nature -could have been produced, but that leaves the question of the nature of the creator.
Though many religious people might consider the very idea blasphemous, it is not -as far as I know -specifically indicated in any scripture whether or not God developed from the most simple state possible, or always existed as a complex, self-aware, intelligent creator.
Similar to the thought that all which exists simply exists "eternally", and changes in form -but that "time" began with the expansion of the Big Bang, God could still be considered eternal if God developed and is essentially all that exists.
Nature is often personified as "Mother", but it is possible that the "Father" is literally the person which is "nature" -and that he necessarily preceded that which required self-awareness, intelligence, creativity, etc.
This might seem to mean that there was once a state in which God was not self-aware, but complex awareness is based on simple awareness and interaction. So, perhaps God became increasingly aware and self-aware as he became more of which to be aware and self-aware.
I am not claiming that any of this is true, but it does essentially answer every question of the origin and present state of things adequately.
Thoughts?
Some believe a creator was not necessary to cause that which presently exists, but they are not certain what was necessary -and usually are not considering what caused "the singularity" to exist in the first place.
As the Big Bang produced the building blocks of physical life forms on earth, they then needed to become ordered to produce life. It is reasonable that the nature of the Big Bang could cause things to happen in the necessary order, but our own example shows that creative influence also exists -and we cannot say it did not exist prior to life on earth. We also cannot say it did not exist prior to the singularity and Big Bang.
It can be said, however, that it is "natural" for "nature" to produce self-aware, intelligent, creative life.
It is logical to me that a self-aware, intelligent, creative life form must have existed before our universe -due to its nature -could have been produced, but that leaves the question of the nature of the creator.
Though many religious people might consider the very idea blasphemous, it is not -as far as I know -specifically indicated in any scripture whether or not God developed from the most simple state possible, or always existed as a complex, self-aware, intelligent creator.
Similar to the thought that all which exists simply exists "eternally", and changes in form -but that "time" began with the expansion of the Big Bang, God could still be considered eternal if God developed and is essentially all that exists.
Nature is often personified as "Mother", but it is possible that the "Father" is literally the person which is "nature" -and that he necessarily preceded that which required self-awareness, intelligence, creativity, etc.
This might seem to mean that there was once a state in which God was not self-aware, but complex awareness is based on simple awareness and interaction. So, perhaps God became increasingly aware and self-aware as he became more of which to be aware and self-aware.
I am not claiming that any of this is true, but it does essentially answer every question of the origin and present state of things adequately.
Thoughts?