Fat people

[Stevicus]

So, what are the thoughts you have about fat people?

Weird Al sums it up:

 

[ChristineM]

Not to disagree, but sitting around on your fat....ermm...accumulation probably contributes as much, if not more, than poor choice in food.

Much in that, however I think those choosing a sedentary lifestyle are the ones going for convenience foods.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It seems like you're talking about super obese people. It seems to be a combination of things such as bad habits and an enabling environment. Those people are also addicted to food and eat thousands of calories a day. I've been watching My 600lb Life a lot lately and the addiction is usually triggered by a traumatic event, depression, anxiety, etc. It's a difficult thing and people deserve dignity and understanding.

I, myself, am somewhere around 150lbs overweight. I'm not 400+, though.

 

[PureX]

I can only speak for myself.

I have recently lost about 65 pounds through diet and exercise (last 6 months). And I am hoping to lose about 65 more. But it's becoming more difficult as I go along. It's harder, for some reason, to lose weight after you've already lost some. I guess it's because I am no longer carrying around that 65 pounds all day. That must represent some significant amount of exercise just in itself. Exercise that I'm no longer getting.

What I do know is that I need to burn more fat, carbs, and calories than I eat, to lose weight. And that I'd gained the excess weight that I am now trying to lose because I was eating more fat, carbs, and calories than I was burning off each day. What has been a real surprise, and 'eye-opener', was finding out what's really in the foods I'd been eating. Many of the foods I ate, before, I'd thought weren't that heavy in these categories. But once I began counting the fat, carbs, and calories in everything I ate, I discovered that they really were.

I think a lot of the obesity we see these days is because a lot of the foods we are eating are very heavy in fat, carbs, and calories. And because we are living very sedentary lives. We may not be eating that much, but we are eating badly, and not getting much exercise. Certainly that has been the case with me. And it's what I am changing now, so as to lose the excess weight.

 

[BSM1]

Much in that, however I think those choosing a sedentary lifestyle are the ones going for convenience foods.

Exactly. Now if they would to McDonalds instead of riding I think you'd see a marked difference.

 

[Orbit]

Some people have Polycystic Ovaries, which leads to hormone imbalances that in turn lead to metabolic syndrome--making losing weight near impossible. Add a hypothyroidism on top of that, and the fact that if you restrict caloric intake your metabolism slows down, you begin to see that some people are just @##$ed. That's even without poor food choices. Different people are overweight for different reasons.

 

[exchemist]

I put this in the food and beverage forum, because I wonder how much diet has to do with these fat people I'm seeing everywhere, and if you are obese and you think it has something to do with the way you eat.

Americans are getting fatter and fatter. In your own words, please state the reasons. I'm not sure gluttony is the primary cause of obesity. Some of the Catholic Saints were fat. Saint Anthony of Padua is portrayed as a thin man in a Franciscan robe. Truth is, he was a big fat ****, and Saint Francis of Assissi originally didn't want much to do with him because he was so fat, and Francis despised laziness and gluttony, which he originally assumed Saint Anthony to be guilty of.

Pope John the 23rd is one of my favorite Popes, but the guy was a walking jelly roll. Saint Olaf II was known as "Olaf the fat" or "Olaf the big".

I was at a homeless shelter years ago that was run by a woman too fat to walk. She was over 400 pounds, yet denied that gluttony had anything to do with it. She had sleep apnea. Could sleep apnea make someone that obese?

I visited a Carmelite monastery where everyone fasted almost daily and practiced asceticism, and the superior was fat. Gluttony likely had nothing to do with it.

So, just curious, in your words, how much you think diet has to do with how fat we Americans have become? I am underweight, and used to live at a foster home, where they had dairy cows. They would skim the cream off the top of the milk and keep it in a separate jar. I would drink jars of straight cream (We are talking thousands of calories at once) hoping to put on weight. I don't think it gave me a pound more. Some people would have blown up like blimps. So, I don't think caloric intake is the primary factor in obesity.

So, what are the thoughts you have about fat people? It's gotta be a heavy cross they carry.

Coca Cola culture.

 

[YmirGF]

Of course each individual is ultimately responsible for their own dietary habits, but I think a lot of it has to do with convenience and affordability as far as food products go in the U.S. That, and our foods have a lot of garbage in it (such as corn syrup in virtually everything). Eating healthy either requires paying significantly more, or spending more time and effort preparing it. We also have a culture that tends to foster a sedentary lifestyle.

I couldn't agree more. Part of my success in creating my culinary masterpieces is simply taking the time and using fresh wholesome products. Don't buy anything that is prepared. Another silly rule is, if I pick up an item and cannot pronounce more than 3 words on the ingredients label, I put it back -- quickly.

The weirdest thing about learning to cook and becoming a competent cook is that after awhile you make many things in advance. For example I will make a 3x or 4x batch of a sauce that gets frozen and so can be put on a bed of steaming Basmati in mere moments. Chop up some fresh veggies, slice up that chicken breast from last night and voila. Cooking time, say, 15 minutes.

 

[Audie]

You can go around in HK all day and the only
fat people you will see are tourists.

 

[sun rise]

Some genetic. Some from thyroid issues. Depression. And some just eat too much. I ate at a buffet the other night and looking around thought there should be a disclaimer that said, "just because it says All you can eat, doesn't mean you should."

Years ago when I lost quite a bit of weight (before slowly regaining it over a decade), I knew of one person who did not lose weight because of her body's reaction to the diet. Metabolic issue are definitely part of it. I'm thinking of leptin and ghrelin which does not work properly in some.

For me, I love to eat and will ignore feeling full. Also I have stress eaten. I'm now on the diet just about the same as the one from 2005 and am again losing weight. I know long term success is to not eat if I'm not hungry (duh), weight myself and not let the pounds creep back on.

many products have high fructose corn syrup and other fattening things in them. It can be hard to find

I've also read that HFCS has more of an effect on ghrelin (hunger) levels than sugar and thus stimulates hunger more.

 

[savagewind]

My diet consists of tomatoes, potatoes, apples, milk, peanut butter, bread, and sardines. Does that sound healthy to you?

It does not sound healthy to me. I learned in my nutrition class that humans should eat some dark green leafy vegetables every day.

 

[ChristineM]

Exactly. Now if they would to McDonalds instead of riding I think you'd see a marked difference.

Its called inflation theory

 

[Spiderman]

You ever stop and think how many peoples nose hairs fall into the buffet? The sneeze guards are useless to short people. Now I'm never eating at another buffet.

And how does a nose hair hurt anybody?

Anyway, my collection of silverware consists of one plastic spoon, despite having access to the internet, I live like a caveman!

I'm one of those people Donald Trump wants to ship to a "****hole country".

 

[Spiderman]

Buddha fasted and practiced asceticism, yet people portray him as a big fat **** in art.

I think it does a disservice to portray a man who taught self-control, as a lard ***!

 

[Spiderman]

You can go around in HK all day and the only
fat people you will see are tourists.

Does HK stand for Hong Kong?

Yeah that must not make Americans look good when a country of thin people notices all the fat people are tourists...us Americans will keep stuffing their faces and sitting around on their butts getting fatter and fatter while the majority of the world starves...

 

[BSM1]

Buddha fasted and practiced asceticism, yet people portray him as a big fat **** in art.

I think it does a disservice to portray a man who taught self-control, as a lard ***!

This is one of those misconceptions that grew legs over the years. This is not The Buddha. this is just a representation of a Buddhist Bodhisattva, or maybe even Pu-Tai.

 

[Spiderman]

This is one of those misconceptions that grew legs over the years. This is not The Buddha. this is just a representation of a Buddhist Bodhisattva, or maybe even Pu-Tai.

Either way, he looks creepy!

 

[Audie]

Does HK stand for Hong Kong?

Yeah that must not make Americans look good when a country of thin people notices all the fat people are tourists...us Americans will keep stuffing their faces and sitting around on their butts getting fatter and fatter while the majority of the world starves...

Hong Kong. I did not say that to say how wonderful HK is.
(even though it is! )

It is just that HK or Tokyo for that matter, are examples of how
obesity does not have to be the norm in a rich modern city.

On a bit of a tangent here, but the conservatives / republicans who
hold that govt regulation is the problem, we need less, really
should read, say, " The Jungle" or something else about the
state of food and drug safety in the US a hundred or so years
ago.

Or for that matter, shop at a traditional market in Philippines, Thailand,
China, Vietnam.

No regulations. Anybody here know what I am talking about?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Much in that, however I think those choosing a sedentary lifestyle are the ones going for convenience foods.

Once you see the hefty mark-up for healthy foods, I'm not surprised convenience foods are the preferred choice.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Buddha fasted and practiced asceticism, yet people portray him as a big fat **** in art.

I think it does a disservice to portray a man who taught self-control, as a lard ***!

Happy Hoti !! "0D