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Fat people

Discussion in 'Food and Beverage Forum' started by PopeADope, May 1, 2018.

  1. PopeADope

    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    I put this in the food and beverage forum, because I wonder how much diet has to do with these fat people I'm seeing everywhere, and if you are obese and you think it has something to do with the way you eat.

    Americans are getting fatter and fatter. In your own words, please state the reasons. I'm not sure gluttony is the primary cause of obesity. Some of the Catholic Saints were fat. Saint Anthony of Padua is portrayed as a thin man in a Franciscan robe. Truth is, he was a big fat ****, and Saint Francis of Assissi originally didn't want much to do with him because he was so fat, and Francis despised laziness and gluttony, which he originally assumed Saint Anthony to be guilty of.

    Pope John the 23rd is one of my favorite Popes, but the guy was a walking jelly roll. Saint Olaf II was known as "Olaf the fat" or "Olaf the big".

    I was at a homeless shelter years ago that was run by a woman too fat to walk. She was over 400 pounds, yet denied that gluttony had anything to do with it. She had sleep apnea. Could sleep apnea make someone that obese?

    I visited a Carmelite monastery where everyone fasted almost daily and practiced asceticism, and the superior was fat. Gluttony likely had nothing to do with it.

    So, just curious, in your words, how much you think diet has to do with how fat we Americans have become? I am underweight, and used to live at a foster home, where they had dairy cows. They would skim the cream off the top of the milk and keep it in a separate jar. I would drink jars of straight cream (We are talking thousands of calories at once) hoping to put on weight. I don't think it gave me a pound more. Some people would have blown up like blimps. So, I don't think caloric intake is the primary factor in obesity.

    So, what are the thoughts you have about fat people? :) It's gotta be a heavy cross they carry.
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  2. David1967

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    Some genetic. Some from thyroid issues. Depression. And some just eat too much. I ate at a buffet the other night and looking around thought there should be a disclaimer that said, "just because it says All you can eat, doesn't mean you should."
     
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    Of course each individual is ultimately responsible for their own dietary habits, but I think a lot of it has to do with convenience and affordability as far as food products go in the U.S. That, and our foods have a lot of garbage in it (such as corn syrup in virtually everything). Eating healthy either requires paying significantly more, or spending more time and effort preparing it. We also have a culture that tends to foster a sedentary lifestyle.
     
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  4. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    And I always try to get my money's worth...
     
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    People are eating too much bad food made in factories with plenty of chemicals added and the human body wasn't made to consume that junk.
    A sedentary lifestyle doesn't help but ultimately, it is a dietary problem. People who make their own meals and avoid processed food don't normally suffer from obesity.
    It would also help a lot if they stopped eating and drinking sugary stuff every two hours.
     
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  6. Quetzal

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    Who can blame you? Take multiple trips and shove a few rolls in your pocket!
     
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  7. David1967

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    You ever stop and think how many peoples nose hairs fall into the buffet?:eek: The sneeze guards are useless to short people. Now I'm never eating at another buffet.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    This is true but before long you'll be trying to shovel a few rolls back into your belt.
     
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    I had a very close friend who had that issue, and no matter how much he watched and restricted what he ate, he still was obese.
     
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    I know a guy who was so fat he was confined to a wheelchair. He had some kind of gastric surgey about a year ago. 100 lbs lighter now and out of the chair.
     
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    My diet consists of tomatoes, potatoes, apples, milk, peanut butter, bread, and sardines. I eat it consistently, and buy my food from a Somali store in walking distance. Does that sound healthy to you? Anyway, I've never had obesity problems. It would do me well to put on a few pounds actually.
     
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    Ever try putting all that in a blender and making a smoothie?
     
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    I guess that is what it becomes after I chew it up and put it in my belly :D
     
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    Oh yeah...I forgot all about gastric bypass surgery...I knew a priest who weighed over three hundred pounds, then had gastric bypass surgery, and he is now as skinny as an Auschwitz concentration camp victim...almost! :D
     
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    In the US at least, you've got to be very careful about what you buy because so many products have high fructose corn syrup and other fattening things in them. It can be hard to find, say, a ketchup that isn't laced with the stuff. Best to stick to unprocessed foods whenever possible.
     
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    A shovel, now that is a unit of measurement I can get behind!
     
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    The Ms and I try to cut out added sugars whenever possible (we give ourselves a pass on natural sugars found in fruits, veggies, etc). It is very difficult to do. Everything seems to have added sugar. Find something that doesn't? Enjoy an extra 5-10% on top of the retail price for your trouble. It is pretty frustrating.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Guess I ought to read these before I post. I meant shove, of course. But, hey, shovel works.
     
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    There are several reasons for obesity that have been mentioned above, i believe the most common is diet. The choice is healthy food or unhealthy food. Guess which is advertised most, more convenient and reasonably cheap?
     
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    Not to disagree, but sitting around on your fat....ermm...accumulation probably contributes as much, if not more, than poor choice in food.
     
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