Spiderman
Veteran Member
I put this in the food and beverage forum, because I wonder how much diet has to do with these fat people I'm seeing everywhere, and if you are obese and you think it has something to do with the way you eat.
Americans are getting fatter and fatter. In your own words, please state the reasons. I'm not sure gluttony is the primary cause of obesity. Some of the Catholic Saints were fat. Saint Anthony of Padua is portrayed as a thin man in a Franciscan robe. Truth is, he was a big fat ****, and Saint Francis of Assissi originally didn't want much to do with him because he was so fat, and Francis despised laziness and gluttony, which he originally assumed Saint Anthony to be guilty of.
Pope John the 23rd is one of my favorite Popes, but the guy was a walking jelly roll. Saint Olaf II was known as "Olaf the fat" or "Olaf the big".
I was at a homeless shelter years ago that was run by a woman too fat to walk. She was over 400 pounds, yet denied that gluttony had anything to do with it. She had sleep apnea. Could sleep apnea make someone that obese?
I visited a Carmelite monastery where everyone fasted almost daily and practiced asceticism, and the superior was fat. Gluttony likely had nothing to do with it.
So, just curious, in your words, how much you think diet has to do with how fat we Americans have become? I am underweight, and used to live at a foster home, where they had dairy cows. They would skim the cream off the top of the milk and keep it in a separate jar. I would drink jars of straight cream (We are talking thousands of calories at once) hoping to put on weight. I don't think it gave me a pound more. Some people would have blown up like blimps. So, I don't think caloric intake is the primary factor in obesity.
So, what are the thoughts you have about fat people? It's gotta be a heavy cross they carry.
Americans are getting fatter and fatter. In your own words, please state the reasons. I'm not sure gluttony is the primary cause of obesity. Some of the Catholic Saints were fat. Saint Anthony of Padua is portrayed as a thin man in a Franciscan robe. Truth is, he was a big fat ****, and Saint Francis of Assissi originally didn't want much to do with him because he was so fat, and Francis despised laziness and gluttony, which he originally assumed Saint Anthony to be guilty of.
Pope John the 23rd is one of my favorite Popes, but the guy was a walking jelly roll. Saint Olaf II was known as "Olaf the fat" or "Olaf the big".
I was at a homeless shelter years ago that was run by a woman too fat to walk. She was over 400 pounds, yet denied that gluttony had anything to do with it. She had sleep apnea. Could sleep apnea make someone that obese?
I visited a Carmelite monastery where everyone fasted almost daily and practiced asceticism, and the superior was fat. Gluttony likely had nothing to do with it.
So, just curious, in your words, how much you think diet has to do with how fat we Americans have become? I am underweight, and used to live at a foster home, where they had dairy cows. They would skim the cream off the top of the milk and keep it in a separate jar. I would drink jars of straight cream (We are talking thousands of calories at once) hoping to put on weight. I don't think it gave me a pound more. Some people would have blown up like blimps. So, I don't think caloric intake is the primary factor in obesity.
So, what are the thoughts you have about fat people? It's gotta be a heavy cross they carry.