linwood said:
There`s no need.
In these three examples these peoples faith led to murder, suicide, and infanticide.
It is my opinion these three crimes when done for no gain cannot be based on reason as they unnecessarily led to the deaths of innocents.
For no other reason than to feed someones ego.
There`s no rationality there.
Edit:
Actually at least two members of the Manson family have stated they could not give a reason for what they did.
Many who survied Guyana said the same.
Andrea yates has since claimed she was wrong and couldn`t understand her reasons now.
So..yes..they have.
First, murder is perfectly logical and rational. One person termintates the life of another. I fail to see any catch 22s or any paradoxes of logic. It is only irrational when morals are brought into the equation, but morals have nothing to do whatsoever with logic.
Secondly, comparing mentally deranged people with the faithful is a bit of a false analogy. The insane do not operate under faith. No one knows for sure what motivates them, including themselves, so saying, "Look! Charles Manson said faith is the reason and the only reason, so everyone with faith is the same way!" is kind of an insult to my and your own intelligence. I've never had my bishop tell me to carve a cross into my forehead. That's not really a facet of faith; nor are those people shining examples of it. They did not have faith, they had mental problems.
Again, present a case devoid of blatant logical fallacies in order to be taken seriously.