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CBS Special report mail bombing

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
A person is arrested that was involved with mail bombings for Democrats. Question, if this person makes a deal and testifies that Trump was the person who initiated the bombs, will there be a case for Impeachment?

What I find rather interesting is Cesar Sayoc's van has many of the same stickers as my pickup truck. I also share many of Cesar Sayoc's pro-Trump and American friendly sentiments, but I would not have done anything like he did to rally any support around Trump haters and the lib media just a week before the mid-term elections.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
What I find rather interesting is Cesar Sayoc's van has many of the same stickers as my pickup truck. I also share many of Cesar Sayoc's pro-Trump and American friendly sentiments, but I would not have done anything like he did to garnish any support to anti-Trump sympathizers and the lib media just a week before the mid-term elections.
Most people don't no matter what their sentiments, including religious ones, they have.

And as usual, statistical significance is ignored because of how many die every day for "ordinary" reasons.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
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What I find rather interesting is Cesar Sayoc's van has many of the same stickers as my pickup truck. I also share many of Cesar Sayoc's pro-Trump and American friendly sentiments, but I would not have done anything like he did to rally any support around Trump haters and the lib media just a week before the mid-term elections.
I know right? Sucks that a fan of a president who called for violence on several occasions decided to do it at an inconveniant time for you. If only he waited until after midterms.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know right? Sucks that a fan of a president who called for violence on several occasions decided to do it at an inconveniant time for you. If only he waited until after midterms.
I say that all POed partisans bent on terrorism & violence wait until I run for Prez.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Most people don't no matter what their sentiments, including religious ones, they have.

And as usual, statistical significance is ignored because of how many die every day for "ordinary" reasons.

Yes, the libs indeed wrongly blame Trump for people who die from natural causes...i.e. .a poor health condition...Nevertheless, some Trump haters wrongly blamed the POTUS for the death of people who supposedly lack access to health care.; Of course, that's fake news, the unreported truth is nobody can be denied emergency health care treatment at any hospital emergency room.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes, the libs indeed wrongly blame Trump for people who die for ordinary reasons...i.e. .poor health...Nevertheless, some Trump haters wrongly blamed the POTUS for the death of people who supposedly lack access to health care.; Of course, that's fake news, the unreported truth is nobody can be denied emergency health care treatment at any hospital emergency room.
You wouldn't be accusing them of being "low information voters", would you?
That would be ironic.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
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Yes, the libs indeed wrongly blame Trump for people who die from natural causes...i.e. .a poor health condition...Nevertheless, some Trump haters wrongly blamed the POTUS for the death of people who supposedly lack access to health care.; Of course, that's fake news, the unreported truth is nobody can be denied emergency health care treatment at any hospital emergency room.
Emergency healthcare does jack for people dying of a treatable fatal illness that people can't afford to get screened or treated for. More people go bankrupt from medical bills and die from lack of healthcare in the US than any other first world country.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Trump backers who have suggested the bombs are a liberal hoax:

Ann Coulter
Rush Limbaugh
Michael Savage
James Woods
Mike Flynn Jr.
Frank Gaffney
Kurt Schlichter
Candace Owens
David Horowitz
John Cardillo
Laura Loomer
Jacob Wohl
Chadwick Moore
John Lott
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Emergency healthcare does jack for people dying of a treatable fatal illness that people can't afford to get screened or treated for. More people go bankrupt from medical bills and die from lack of healthcare in the US than any other first world country.

There's plenty of socialistic health insurance coverage programs like Medicaid for poor sickly folk and Medicare for retirees. A Bernie Sander's Medicare-for-all socialist program where taxpayers pay every dollar of everybody's health care expenses would overburden our limited health care resources and this would bankrupt our entire nation.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Life in prison looks good to me.
(For him...not me.)

But, do you blame Trump?

I think I blame the media for creating this left vs right hostility. Weird I suppose they cause the news they report on. Many news shows are objective in their reporting but everyone watches the opinion shows on the "news" networks and gets their world view from here.

In this specific case likely the FOX opinion shows. In the case of leftist violence, the CNN opinion shows.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Staff member
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There's plenty of socialistic health insurance coverage programs like Medicaid for poor sickly folk and Medicare for retirees. A Bernie Sander's Medicare-for-all socialist program where taxpayers pay every dollar of everybody's health care expenses would overburden our limited health care resource and this would bankrupt our entire nation.
So I suppose in your world the nearly 50,000 people who die from lack of health coverage just don't exist?

even if you're in the correct bracket for Medicare and Medicaid, the only pay about 80% of your cost. Which can mean that if you get cancer you will still be expected to pay tens of thousands of dollars. This is simply unobtainable for thousands of citizens.

You pay more into healthcare through privatized insurance than anyone in Canada does for NHS. We pay billions out of pocket to meet deductibles, artificially inflated service and medication costs. A single payer system which doesn't funnel billions of dollars into corporate pharma would save way more money, just not for those who benefit from Big Pharma lobbyist.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But, do you blame Trump?

I think I blame the media for creating this left vs right hostility. Weird I suppose they cause the news they report on. Many news shows are objective in their reporting but everyone watches the opinion shows on the "news" networks and gets their world view from here.

In this specific case likely the FOX opinion shows. In the case of leftist violence, the CNN opinion shows.
"Blame" is a loaded word.
Some would read that to mean culpability to a greater extent than I think appropriate.
Instead, I'll say that he, some of his supporters, & some of his opposition have created
a hostile & polarized political climate which goads fringe elements to violence.
Even vaunted NPR has contributed with fear mongering that Trump could be Hitler.
 
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