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Biden rides on the ban wagon. Makes "Wuhan Virus" forbidden since January.

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Twilight Hue, Feb 20, 2021.

  1. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Biden v. Xenophobia: New Executive Order Bans Term ‘China Virus’ | Human Events

    Joe Biden’s mandate: Don’t call it the China virus …


    Joe Biden UNLEASHES Speech Police: ‘China Virus’ and ‘Illegal Aliens’ Prohibited

    Pc policing is alive and well. The virus did originate from Wuhan China and there is nothing wrong with calling it for what it is.

    'Woke' Biden it seems, needs to pander and stay hip with the SJW crowd whom get offended at anything not on their fav list.

    Diseases like Spanish flu, German Measles, Marburg disease, Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), West Nile virus,
    St. Louis Encephalitis, La Crosse Encephalitis,
    Ross River Fever, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Lyme Disease. The list is extensive. Whats wrong here?

    I know,, better start banning those terms too.

    Don't want to offend anyone.

    People are too sensitive and fragile, and such names will cause irreparable and permanent harm on such vulnerable minds.

    Maybe start a new government agency to control terms perhaps?

    US Dept of Terminology? Word Enforcement Agency?
     
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  2. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    There is no proof the virus originated in Wuhan
     
  3. Sunstone

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    Yeah, taking any stand against someone scapegoating someone else for their own political benefit is only intellectually dishonest and a threat to anyone's liberties and freedoms when it's not done by our own side. Got it.

    So what else is new in the world today?

    The kind of thinking the OP is an example of what would place anyone on any side of the aisle beyond the displeasure they'd suffer were it possible they had the insight to know themselves.

    That very much includes the large number of those folks who insincerely 'think that way' in order to more gratifyingly stick it to people they are angry with or hate because they've believed someone's propaganda about how deserving those heinous people are of being feared and hated by the world's better sorts of humans.



    Trump labeled the virus the 'China virus' for no better reason than to fool his supporters into denying he had any hand in bringing about a pandemic in how he mishandled a risk to all Americans.

    I would not even back during the 2016 primaries have put the loser in charge of helping any child learn to tie their shoelaces for fear he'd screw it up and hang them.

    If it doesn't seem likely to you that Trump was a knowable quantity even way back then, check with your doctor about whether you might have some disorder interfering with your ability to understand people. It you don't do that much for yourself, what self-respect do you have?

    By the way, thanks to the OP for this opportunity to practice my writing skills.
     
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  4. Revoltingest

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    The Spanish Flu didn't originate in Spain.
    But you don't hear them complaining about it.
    The Wu Han Flu is a perfectly cromulent name
    going by the standard used for a century.
    Although Kung Flu is more fun, particularly in
    light of continual PRC efforts to blame Ameristan.
    WHO must probe US weapons lab for ‘leaking Covid’, taunts Chinese scientist
     
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  5. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    As a SJW I like it.
     
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    Are you referring to the Italian research that identifies the virus as present in several locations in Italy, months in advance of when the Chinese were the first to recognize it, and announce the threat of a pandemic?

    Naming the virus after the Chinese is like naming the Holocaust after the first outsiders to notice it and sound the alarm. But that sort of thing is pretty much par for the course for humans. See how the Spanish Flu got its name.



    It's even more entertaining when you go back far enough to when the English called syphilis 'the French disease' and the French call it 'the English disease'.

    Those sorts of shenanigans probably helped somehow to delay anyone noticing how the disease seemed to coincidentally appear in Europe more or less with the arrival back in Spain of Columbus and his men, most of whom had refreshed their personal ability to appreciate feminine companionship while practicing diplomacy in the 'New World', circa the era of the Spanish Inquisition.

    No offense to anyone, but European cultures were not until recently anywhere back to being as likely to produce skillful sex as they had been in pagan times. And even in pagan times, European cultures didn't come up with whatever it takes to rival China and Japan. Ben Wa balls didn't get their name from some European's vocalizing her joy while using them. That's just the start of the differences.

    The words 'sex' and 'American' only combine into an empirically realistic statement when the term 'hysteria' is somehow factored in.



    It says a lot about people that everyone of us is more than merely potentially capable of living several decades, yet still not catch on to this sort of stuff in any meaningful way.

    Reactionary thinking is one of the surest ways we have of committing ourselves to lives of willful stupidity and ignorance about any topic that we allow to anger us. As the Lakota used to say, "Chose your enemies well, for you become like them."
     
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  7. Lyndon

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    Yes, that's one thing I was thinking of, also the possibility that a foreign power planted the virus in China, still a possibility.
     
  8. mikkel_the_dane

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    It is also a possibility that is Space Aliens, who did it. But that doesn't mean it happened.
     
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    It was never supposed to make sense. Some people just look for things to be offended about.
     
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    Before we all get totally hysterical and start claiming that huge snakes, many of them millions of miles long, will roam freely through the American countryside, can we please have a reliable source for this story?

    What, exactly, has Biden's adminstration said about the terminology used to describe SARS CoV-2, and who, exactly, is restricted in the terminology they can use?
     
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    Please....we're having fun.
    Don't ruin it with obsession over accuray accuracy.
     
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    Was the spelling mistake intentional because it actually improves this post.
     
  13. Revoltingest

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    My incompetence is an advantage?
    Woohoo!
     
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  14. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Did Biden Ban Saying 'China Virus' With Executive Order?

    Its a ban directed at federal agencies using any type of 'racist' designation of Asian origin in this case. Its not a ban on general speech by the public although I wonder if this includes federal workers off duty expressing their personal opinions?

    I also heard that this applies to medical institutions, although its not mentioned here.

    My question is what exactly is racist about it that it requires an executive order here? There's lots of diseases named after people and places after all and there has never been any issue.

    Its my opinion that Biden is just plain pandering to the pc social justice crowd and/or is chumming up to Communist China.
     
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    So your claim is crap, then, isn't it?

    1) The executive order applies to federal agencies only.

    2) All it does is ban the use of language that can lead to anti-Asian or racist sentiment.

    So it is left to the judgement of agencies what language to use, but if they are sensible they will refrain from anything that looks like blaming a group or a country. Biden is sending a signal that the habits of the Trump era, in which tendentious, blame-ridden and inflammatory language became the norm, are no longer acceptable.

    If you think Biden is chumming up to China you need to read a better newspaper.
     
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    Difference being that Trump set up such a xenophobic country that Asian Americans and especially Chinese Americans were targeted for discrimination and angry backlash.
    Chinese restaurants were boycotted, Chinese Americans were assaulted verbally and physically.

    Further, we already had a name, covid. The attempt to make it 'China virus' or 'Wuhan virus' was a deliberate act of blame shifting.

    This also happened to a limited extent with the Spanish Flu, where the US blamed Spanish steamboat companies, but it turned out the Spanish flu actually originated in the US.
    But the rate of discrimination and lashbavk that happened doesn't really compare.
     
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  17. Quetzal

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    Seems like such a... weird thing for him to be worried about.
     
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    It's interesting that when people live in two different realities, while still inhabiting the same location and using the same words, they can't communicate. Because, although they use the same words, the words they use have different meanings to each of them.

    A kind of modern, "Babel effect". We'll have to start publishing two English dictionaries. One for one perceived reality, and the other for the other.
     
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    Anti-Asian assaults are up 600% what they were 10 years ago, so common sense would suggest that if politicians call it the "China virus" that this would likely contribute to that. Thus, I would suggest common decency should should take this into consideration and thus not use that term.
     
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  20. Shadow Wolf

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    We don't do many things we used to do. Why is it so important for some to call this the "Chinese Virus?" Do you need a human face to blame? Is the name what it is too difficult? Dont forget, "Chinese Virus" did start as a very partisan thing, with the rest of the world calling it a corona virus, everyone, that is, except RWers insisting on calling it the Chinese virus.
     
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