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Featured Are atheists liars, deniers or..?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by illykitty, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    Critical thinking is not an exclusive peculiarity of Atheism, many people belonging to religion also think critically. Right? Please
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  2. Willamena

    Willamena Just be there, doing that
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    What you've done, there, is called taking what was said out of context. In the context of the rest of the line, the highlighted part isn't a reference exclusive of atheists.
     
  3. IndigoStorm

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    The mere concept that some sort of all powerful/all seeing
    "god" created the entire universe and everything in it is so totally ludicrous. David Copperfield the magician is more believable than Jesus of Nazareth.
     
  4. Quintessence

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    Absolutely. At the end of the day, I find the "distinction" between atheism and theism to be... well... not. I could stop calling my gods "gods" today and it would mean nothing. It's just a label. A word. It's the substance behind the words that matter. While I aim to respect how people self-identify, I also like to look past it to what they are actually doing. It wouldn't be hard at all for someone to do the same sorts of religious activities I do and call themselves an atheist, and I see it on a fairly regular basis. I don't agree with their self-identifier because to me what they are doing is transparently theistic in orientation, but... like I said, at the end of the day, it's just labels.

    An interesting thing - early on in my path I definitely struggled with that word "god." At some point, I guess I decided that I was sick of letting the mainstream monotheists of my culture own that word. In the past, it meant some very different things, and as a contemporary Pagan, it made sense for me to reclaim ownership of that word "god" instead of ignore it and not use it. But there was definitely a time I used other words instead of "gods" to describe things - there was some personal baggage going on there. But then I went "why the blazes am I letting outsiders control how I use words within my own religion? That's dumb - Christians don't define what gods are for Pagans!" I put my foot down about it. I did the same thing on the word "religion." Guess I just refuse to let the majorities define the terms for all the minorities, or for myself. :D
     
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  5. interminable

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    Actually I think atheists say god doesn't exist not that they don't believe in him right?
     
  6. David T

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    Critical thinkers except for themselves. I have spent time on religion and indeed it can be massively flawed reasoning. But in religion there are at least some who understand that. In context to atheism I never ever get the impression that atheists consider atheism as flawed reasoning at all, but rather profoundly brilliant and atheism always always relies on flawed reasoning in religion as justification to prop that fantasy up. Atheism does not exist except as a mental disorder if religious believers did not exist. And as far as I have been able to understand all atheists believe there are atheists, religious believers and agnostics and that's it!!!! That is False.
     
  7. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    There are two kinds of atheists. Some of us are "weak atheists", who do not necessarily state that there is no god.
     
  8. Willamena

    Willamena Just be there, doing that
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    (Edited) In this context, it means the same thing.
     
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  9. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    No, it doesn't.
     
  10. Willamena

    Willamena Just be there, doing that
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    See? Some atheists really are in denial...
     
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  11. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    Do you understand the difference between making a claim about your own state of mind ("I don't believe in any gods") and a claim about the external world ("gods don't exist")?
     
  12. Willamena

    Willamena Just be there, doing that
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    Yes, actually, I do.
     
  13. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    Then you should know better.
     
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  14. lewisnotmiller

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    Kinda both, in my case.
    So I see no reason to believe there is a God. No evidence. Therefore, I don't believe in God, and I'm an atheist.

    The 'God doesn't exist' part goes a little further than I would, since there are different definitions of God, and there is no way to prove a lack of God.
    But in a practical sense, I would say the Muslim God doesn't exist.
     
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  15. lewisnotmiller

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    I would have laughed my arse off. Guess I also have a puerile sense of humour.
     
  16. lewisnotmiller

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    Your brush is too broad.
     
  17. Soundwave99

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    Look everyone, it's another hater up in their feelings screaming unintelligibly about something they don't understand:tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
     
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    I just said that based on Oxford dictionary.
     
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    And u have found a way to prove the lack of Muslims' god???
     
  20. Shadow Wolf

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    The burden of proof lies in those who make a claim, not those who doubt it. As horses do not fly, Muslims have to provide evidence for the existence of Allah.
     
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