To dismiss Holy Books without knowing about it makes no sense either
Spiritual Scriptures explain about the highest potential one can reach
I'm very familiar with holy books. I've read the bible 3 times, I've read the Gathas and several books of the Zend Avesta, the Havamal (my personal favorite), and several others. There is value there, but a lot of the value in there is outdated and no longer applies to people today. There isn't anything in any holy book I've read that isn't readily apperent, or completely irrelevant. The only way holy books have helped me as much as they have is that they helped me deprogram my brain from the damage done by the original holy book I was raised with (or rather, the religion I was raised with that relied on that holy book).
Not to say many don't find value, because they do. Unfortunately, there is so much there that misleads, it's hard to justify the good when the bad is right next to it in the very next sentence. Even the Gathas, which I found to be the best and most upliftings scriptures, have darker verses as well that are just plain unnecessary. When scripures need to have the best bits cherry picked or the bad bits need to be explained, it can't really be a reliable or accurate guide for life.
Now, when scriptures speak of spiritual states, I've experienced some of them myself. I'm not convinced they aren't just a trick of the mind; a placebo, or some other biochemical reaction of the brain. Half of the deeper verses are actually meaningless deepities that don't amount to anything tangible, and the other half require altered states of mind that causes one to escape from reality, not ground themselves closer to it.
They are a fun hobby to get into, but I feel like they can be a trap for some if they get too deep into it.
Hardly anyone gets to that. The Books were also for them
Most stay barbarian compared to that. They could use it
I will gladly break bread with an uncivilized barbarian than suffer the company of a self important man who thinks himself better than his fellow man any day. "Civilized" people will often teach you trivialities held high on pretense, but people from the salt of the earth will teach you how to live. They are the ones who will be honest with you and help you stay grounded, where the "civilized" person is oftentimes two faced and has no qualms about stabbing you in the back to get ahead.
This is why nature based religions and indigenous spirituality resonates with me. They are about life
with nature, not apart from it. Not above it. Not away from it. Some may consider these folks barbarians, but I can't think of the last time these barbarians led a mass genocide or tried to dominate another group of people by erasing their culture and language.
Of course if you can gain it without it, good for you
Reality is, that nobody gets there on its own
True. We all take from our surroundings, and that includes religion and holy books. Not everything we get is good, though. More important than what we get are the basic mental tools needed to decipher that information. You can look at a violent scripture and see a lesson of what not to do. A zealot sees it and thinks his god wants him to do that terrible thing to other people. One has a good set of mental tools, the other one doesn't.
A grounded and honest mind has far more value than any written works, holy or not, IMO.
That is what is important.
