And There Is Not A Crisis At The Border?

[Twilight Hue]

A crisis of Trump’s creation.

Actually a crisis of Socialist Democrats inaction and incompetence while encouraging illegals to come here en masse.

 

[Audie]

A crisis of Trump’s creation.

In what way is it his doing?

 

[SkepticThinker]

It couldn't hurt, but I would even go further.

Trump declared a national emergency to get his wall built.
So since Trump supporters are exclaiming that "See, there is a border crisis!" I'm wondering how they (you?) think building a wall is going to curb the problem of not having enough housing for asylum seekers.

 

[BSM1]

Trump declared a national emergency to get his wall built.
So since Trump supporters are exclaiming that "See, there is a border crisis!" I'm wondering how they (you?) think building a wall is going to curb the problem of not having enough housing for asylum seekers.

And you think the big problem here is housing for these pseudo-asylum seekers?

 

[SkepticThinker]

And you think the big problem here is housing for these pseudo-asylum seekers?

No, the big problem appears to be housing, and lack of resources for asylum seekers.

Did you not read the articles in the OP?

 

[Quetzal]

Well it seems that the mayor of Yuma AZ thinks there is.
Yuma Mayor Douglas Nicholls Proclaims Local Emergency as Migrant Releases Continue
Yuma, Arizona mayor declares emergency over migrant situation
Yuma, Arizona, mayor declares emergency over influx of migrants - CNN

Well... crap. Do you think they will get federal aid?

 

[Stanyon]

Here's the thing: I have absolutely no reason to trust you or give your opinion any weight, so I wouldn't take any stat you gave seriously unless it was corroborated.

And when I provide statistics from the F.B.I showing what I say to be true I imagine you would find some other way to justify your reality. I fully encourage you to look it up and make your own assessments.

 

[Stanyon]

No. Trump is more of a symptom of white supremacy than a cause.

So the former democrat globalist liberal that recognizes Israel and "surrounds himself with Jews" is a symptom of White supremacy....

The U.S. had two choices of who would actually win 2016:
A rich White guy
A rich White woman
Tell me again about White supremacy

 

[Stanyon]

It's funny how some in the media that oppose Trump just a few months ago claimed that Trump was lying and that there was no crisis, now in light of indisputable evidence that it is a reality, it's all Trumps fault.

 

[sooda]

You could invite them to your house with no vetting process, just a thought.

Do you think that is clever?

 

[fantome profane]

In what way is it his doing?

Shall I start with the poorly thought out zero tolerance policy? Which overwhelmed the system without making any preparations before hand.

And then the cutting off of aid, which is like trying to get people to stay in a house by setting it on fire. What did he think was going to happen?

And add to this the contempt he has shown to immigration judges and lawyers who are desperately needed to help this situation.

Everything Trump has done regarding issue has had the effect of more people coming, and keeping them longer.

 

[fantome profane]

Actually a crisis of Socialist Democrats inaction and incompetence while encouraging illegals to come here en masse.

If you wanted to put some blame on Congress, Dems and Pubs, I would agree. And past Presidents as well, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc and their respective Congress(s) created this problem. But it didn’t become a crisis til Trump.

Answer me honestly. Has this problem gotten better, or worse since Trump took office with his bold leadership and strong immigration policy?

 

[Stanyon]

Do you think that is clever?

It would be a horrible idea to invite a lot of people you know nothing about to live in your house indefinitely giving room and board and simply unconscionable to invite them into someone else's home especially when they tell you "we're full".

 

[sooda]

It would be a horrible idea to invite a lot of people you know nothing about to live in your house indefinitely and simply unconscionable to invite them into someone else's home.

Yep.. Ask the Palestinians about that.

 

[Audie]

So the former democrat globalist liberal that recognizes Israel and "surrounds himself with Jews" is a symptom of White supremacy....

The U.S. had two choices of who would actually win 2016:
A rich White guy
A rich White woman
Tell me again about White supremacy

Guess i mostly saw them as sleazy rich phonies
more interested in themselves than anything else.

 

[Audie]

If you wanted to put some blame on Congress, Dems and Pubs, I would agree. And past Presidents as well, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc and their respective Congress(s) created this problem. But it didn’t become a crisis til Trump.

Answer me honestly. Has this problem gotten better, or worse since Trump took office with his bold leadership and strong immigration policy?

Unlntended and unpredicted consequences are
a thing
The Treaty of Versailles was drafted / approved by
wise leaders.

It was not necessarily obvious that "stay out,
you are not welcone" would morph into
"Caravans, Ho!",

 

[sooda]

If you wanted to put some blame on Congress, Dems and Pubs, I would agree. And past Presidents as well, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc and their respective Congress(s) created this problem. But it didn’t become a crisis til Trump.

Answer me honestly. Has this problem gotten better, or worse since Trump took office with his bold leadership and strong immigration policy?

Bush and Obama increased Border Patrol Agents to 21,000..

We don't need Trump flailing drama.. just immigration reform. Systems are in place to include US Customs and Immigration and the US Coast Guard.

 

[fantome profane]

Unlntended and unpredicted consequences are
a thing

Yes of course they are. But I am not convinced this is either.

It was foreseeable and foreseen that cutting off of aid to South American country would result in increased migration.

And the worse things get on the southern border the better it is for Trump. Look at this very thread as an example. The crisis itself is being sold as a victory for Trump.

And what could Trump do to make this even worse? Perhaps he could let it be know that immigrants (legal or illegal) will just be bussed from the border and released in major cities. That will make things worse. Or he could cut funding to immigration courts and legal services.

 

[Audie]

Yes of course they are. But I am not convinced this is either.

It was foreseeable and foreseen that cutting off of aid to South American country would result in increased migration.

And the worse things get on the southern border the better it is for Trump. Look at this very thread as an example. The crisis itself is being sold as a victory for Trump.

And what could Trump do to make this even worse? Perhaps he could let it be know that immigrants (legal or illegal) will just be bussed from the border and released in major cities. That will make things worse. Or he could cut funding to immigration courts and legal services.

I did not say it was unforseeable. One can spin out
many scenarios for t he consequences of any action.

I did not see anyone predicting that the flow would
suddenly and greatly increase.

Aid has not been cut off.

I had not heard that the increasing crisis
is a victory for anyone, other, maybe, than
the cartels and some lucky innocents who get
in safe.

As for taking the newcomers to the sanctuary
cities to deal with,whatever "side" on is on in this.
one has to note that "sanctuary" is great as
long as it is virtue signaling, and quite another
should the horde be headed toward their garden
gates.

Not sure what it would make worse,except for
those who can no longer fob the prob off on those
who happen to live near the border.

 

[Shad]

In similar situations, the Canadian government rented out whole hotels.

That was for refugees not illegals