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Am I allowed to be a proud white person?

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
As it is known, I am from South Africa, White, Christian, 58Yo, the typical labled "White privelaged.
Throughout my whole life, I worked hard, made money, looked after my wife, children and now grand children. I perceive myself as a ethnic group called the Afrikaner, with my ancestery from 1569 when my great arrived in the Cape under Jan van Riebeeck to build a halfway station for the VOC between Holland and India. My ancestors were born, lived and died for self determination in this country where they bought land which eventually ended up as the republics of Orange Free state, Transvaal and Natal.
They NEVER took the indigenous people as slaves, and even though they did own slaves, these were people who were sent into bannishment by the Dutch government due to wars they had with nations in East Africa, India and elsewhare.
The slaves my greats did own, were set free before 1834 with the British emancipation. This was at least 30 years before the US.
As the Afrikaner lived in Africa, they were constantly attacked by the Black dictator leaders of various tribes, and thousands of peacefull white Christians died in gruesome circumstances being impaled, skinned alive, their children killed before them, women raped and eviscerated before being clubbed to death.
As the Afrikaner fought back, they always made peace treaties with the black tribes, only to be deceived and their livestock stolen, and the killing was just continued.

Eventually the Brittish sent 500 000 soldiers to our republics, and we held them at bay with only 60 000 men aged 7 to 70.
The brittish lost all their battles, and devised a plan of "scorched earth", burning all the farms, capturing all the women and children and placing them in concentration camps.

They did not feed them and 23500 children less than 3 years died of hunger. 1500 women succumbed too.
There was nothing to do but for the Afrikaner Boer fighters to surender.
A glorious English rose, Emmily Hobhouse, took on the British government and made the world aware of these atrocities committed.
The Boer families returned to their farms to find absolutely no livestock left, houses and stores burned off, and in desperatin went to the cities and lived in squatter camps as one of the poorest nations on Earth at that time.

It took the Afrikaner Boers only 8 years to get back in their feet, and eventually even assisted the Allied forces in fighting Germany in both world wars, where they were known as the best of fighters.

After 1948, the Afrikaner again gained independence from Brittain, and they made laws to protect their kin.
These laws was to ensure that the Afrikaner rules their own country, and no one would take it away again.

This ment that the neighbouring Black people would have their own independent lands, but the South African country would allow Black and coloured to work in the RSA.
As time progressed, the black politicians hated this country, and started to call it their land.
Everything went back to the age of burning, murdering and pillaging.
Eventually the whole world stood against these White people who was now painted as the most horrible ceatures on earth with their Apartheid laws, which was constructed to protect the White Afrikaner.

The White people did not agree with the old National Party government using illegal arrests against the Black politicians, and communist agitators, and voted to change the constitution.
We were betrayed by our leaders, and we were made second class citisens in a country stolen from us by the ANC.
Today the black politicians and communists allow open borders, looting, killing of white farmers, rape, hi jackings, and the burning of libraries, schools, and businusses.

In the mean time, my people are called rubbish and recist galore, whilst the World ignores what the Black communists are doing to this country and the Afrikaner.

Now I want to know:
  • Am I allowed to be White in Africa?
  • An I correct to say that the very destruction we see in South Africa was the very reason why my greats constructed Apartheid?
  • Do the Black people in Europe and US see what the Black racists can do with a great country where they made 30% unemployed and another 40% government employees, and still accuse the whites of being advantaged?
  • Am I allowed to call these black people out for what they are doing, if I am allowed, is it racism? If I an mot allowed, why not?
  • Am I allowed to say that evry "White Nation" on this earth became prosperous, and in Africa the Black people are incapable to achieve the same standard? If I am not allowed to say this, why not becaue it is a fact?

Now, my last questions:
Am I allowed to be proud to be white?
Am I allowed to demand to entertain my family, friends and other Afrikaners who is white?
Am I allowed to live my social life with Whites only?
Am I allowed to teach my children to rather marry with Whites?
Am I allowed to be proud of my White children and grand children?

If the above makes me a racist, please tell me why.

Nelson Mandela through injustice was the greatest person to come out of that quagmire of racism imo.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
And if I fear that if Jewish kids mingle with non-Jewish kids, they will decide to give up Judaism? Does that make Judaism a weak culture that should be given up in any case?

"I fear that if I let my white children mingle with black people, they will have children with a darker skin tone. Does that make the white race a weak race that should be given up in any case?"

Do you see the parallel?
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
Aye, if black want to keep "Chocolate City" (their term...not mine) it's "empowerment", not racism.
"Chocolate City"??? LOL! Back when I a little kid, in Oklahoma City during the 1950s, folks in my neighborhood called that "N-town".
First blacks I went to school with were classmates in 7th grade, ... all the way out in Hawthorne, Nevada. I count myself blessed, because my classmates were as amiable as I was.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Only just saw your edit.
It sounded to me like he wants to preserve his ethnic background, his Afrikaner Boer culture.

This may be wrong. But the other things?
See my reply to your other post. Seeking to avoid people on grounds of ethnicity is racism. And that is not all. This person seeks to justify apartheid as well.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
@SA Huguenot

I am sympathetic to your position. You and I (a white American with certain views) are indeed termed 'racist/evil' by the prevailing political mainstream standards of the year 2020 but that only matters if we submit our thinking to their standards of judgment. I'll do my own thinking, Thank You.

I dislike no one for their race but I'll call the facts as I see them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"Chocolate City"??? LOL! Back when I a little kid, in Oklahoma City during the 1950s, folks in my neighborhood called that "N-town".
First blacks I went to school with were classmates in 7th grade, ... all the way out in Hawthorne, Nevada. I count myself blessed, because my classmates were as amiable as I was.
Where I lived as a kid, Salem MI, there was a goodly percentage of black kids.
They were every bit as normal & strange as the white ones.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not sure this is about skin-colour as much as it is about cultural values.

If you are part of a very conservative culture you don't want your children affected by those with more liberal values. A culture can only continue through its children, so if those children are disappearing into a different culture (value system) then the parent culture is being eroded. So you keep them apart.
 
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I'm proud to be White only because I am one.

If people want to call me privileged for whatever reason go for it, even though I have yet to experience that so-called privilege that they're talking about.
Do you suppose that black truck drivers might have had to deal with a bit more **** than you have from cops and other truckers, especially in the south?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
I'm not sure this is about skin-colour as much as it is about cultural values.

If you are part of a very conservative culture you don't want your children taken in by those with more liberal values. A culture can only continue through its children, so if those children are disappearing into a different culture (value system) then the parent culture is being eroded. So you keep them apart.

You have described the root of racism.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
You have described the root of racism.
Uh, no. I never even mentioned skin-colour in my description. I mentioned cultural values being the differentiating factor. Two people groups with differing value systems will be hard pressed to get along, even if they're both black groups, white groups or whatever else groups.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
"I fear that if I let my white children mingle with black people, they will have children with a darker skin tone. Does that make the white race a weak race that should be given up in any case?"

Do you see the parallel?
So one is not allowed to be proud of their white ethnicity, and all the history and culture that comes with that, in this case, Afrikaner Boer, with a wish to preserve it (intermarriage in this case means bringing people with different cultural backgrounds into the family, creating an unwanted and frankly, meaningless cultural mish-mash)? I see.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Do you suppose that black truck drivers might have had to deal with a bit more **** than you have from cops and other truckers, especially in the south?
I've known plenty in the south and can vouch that truck drivers are even keel across-the-board when it comes to law enforcement.

We are all second-class citizens.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Uh, no. I never even mentioned skin-colour in my description. I mentioned cultural values being the differentiating factor. Two people groups with differing value systems will be hard pressed to get along, even if they're both black groups, white groups or whatever else groups.

The root of racism is the feeling of superiority that one has towards one (or a few) specific trait to the point that everyone that doesn't possess it is inferior. It is the same root to all forms of discrimination.
 
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