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Under our usernames, there's a label called "religion." Next to that is our religion.
"Sanatana Dharma" is another name for Hinduism.
chinu
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Par + Brahm + ite = Parbrahmite.
Par means Above,
Brahm = Explained below.
There are three Regions below "GOD" for "Soul", The region of "God" is said as Par+Brahm + Parbrahm.
First region below the god's region is "Brahm + nd" = Brahmand means (last region)
Second region which is below Brahmand is "U + nd" = Und means(middle region).
Third region which is below Und is "Pi + nd" = Pind means (Body).
Now this Pind region is the shadow of Und region and Und region is the shadow of Brahmand region.
Brahmand is the reagion below God's region from where all creation takes place.
God's Region is also known as Sach+Khand = Sachkhand. in some sacred books.
EXPLAINATION OF PIND REGION (Body)
This region has mainly six stages which are also known as Six Chakras of body,
these chakras are climbed through Praynayams (yogic breathing).
NAMES OF THESE STAGES OR CHAKRAS of BODY
From below to upwards:
Rectum, Genrative Organ, Navel, Heart, Throat & Centre between Eyebrows.
And their are five Deities presiding on these six Chakras.
NAMES OF FIVE DEITIES ON THESE CHAKRAS
Gensesh ji, Brahma ji, Vishnu ji, Shiv ji, & Mata (Shakti)
There is no any Deitie on Last chakra or centre between eyes because this place is the connection between Pin & Und regions.
This place is also known as Sehasdalkaval or Trikuti or Turyiapad or "Mukame Allah" or Tenth-gate as written in some of the sacred books.
S0, Ali+Shan ji, Which you was talking about Vishnouite or shivaite are the yogies of these stages which are mentioned above with their deities.
KINDLY NOTE 1: I have used some of the Acient names of regions & stages according to some different religions, so that you can understand my post easily or religiously or according to Hinduism, otherwise the person who is doing all this practically their is no need of any acient name to be used, innersigns are more than enough.
KINDLY NOTE 2: I am not any yogi who practice prynayams, My path is very simple that is DEVOTION (Bhakti).
Ali ki Shan ji, Once again very nice to meet you,
Allah afis,_/\_Chinu.
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Yes. I am someone who began following Hinduism. Hinduism is not the religion I was born into--I was not born into a religion.
i have red that hindouism beleave in one god and all the divinites are only manifestation of Brahman the great God
so why do you use the word " the Gods" for vishnu , shiva and the others if they are only manifestation of the same God.
for exemple if your name is Chinu you are a man, and your hand, your eyes, your feets belongs to you , i can not say about your eyes or hands " the man eye" "the man hands" because they are not men but belonging to a man whose name is chinu
is it possible that the language of sanskrit and his grammar with the singular and plural made in the history the misunderstanding between "attribute or creation of god" and "the Gods"
i don t want to criticize hindouisme just try to understand
so why do you use the word " the Gods" for vishnu , shiva and the others if they are only manifestation of the same God.
for exemple if your name is Chinu you are a man, and your hand, your eyes, your feets belongs to you , i can not say about your eyes or hands " the man eye" "the man hands" because they are not men but belonging to a man whose name is chinu
is it possible that the language of sanskrit and his grammar with the singular and plural made in the history the misunderstanding between "attribute or creation of god" and "the Gods"
i don t want to criticize hindouisme just try to understand
That is a fair way of putting it, yes.
Ultimately, people have various concepts of God and of Divinity, and choosing the "correct" one is mainly a matter of style and personal preference.
As a rule of thumb, Islam emphasizes the contrast between earth-bound mortal humans and the transcendental God. It teaches people to actively seek understanding and obedience to God's Will.
Hinduism, on the other hand, does not really disagree, but offers a variety of other perspectives that don't always make a point of showing God as so different and separate from this world. Since the Abrahamic conceptions of God usually show this world as His creation, I don't think there is any fundamental disagreement there.
From past exchanges with a Muslim friend of mine, I believe that Muslims take care not to suggest that anyone, even Prophets, should be called "son of God". Of course, it is usual in many communities to call ordinary people "sons of God" without really meaning anything pretentious by that. Meaning is often in the eyes of the beholder, in the cultural affinities.
That is IMO how the Hindu approach to Gods should be understood. Hinduism doesn't really deny that there is only one, true, creator God. But neither does it refuse to recognize that the Sacred manifests itself in many, varied and, why not say it aloud, artistically varied ways. That is why it talks about Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, and its many and varied Avatars and Emanations, without ever truly being politheistic. One could probably say that it is not God that is multiple, but rather people who have various perceptions and understandings of Him - far as I can tell, most Hindus would agree with such a statement. There is no shame or mistake in recognizing that simple humans have no duty of truly understanding pure, non-manifest God.
Of course, being an Atheist, I take that a little bit further and claim that there isn't shame or mistake in recognizing no God either. I don't know how you feel about that, but full disclosure is a good thing and I don't want you to feel lied to.
Best,
Luis
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Deva can be translated as "gods", "God", and so on. It does not matter if we say "The Gods", because we know that the gods of Hinduism such as Shiva, Ganesha, and Vishnu (and the others) are just manifestations of the One - they ARE God, and God is them. They are not like angels. An example you may understand is I see them as similar (but not identical) to how Muslims see the 99 Names of Allah, but they are "anthromorphised".
I would not get upset if someone said "your hands", or "your toes".
Does this help?
I would not get upset if someone said "your hands", or "your toes".
Does this help?
for louis ok thanks are you hindou? or which religion?
odion yes of course there s common point with the 99 names of Allah but i think maybe at the origin in hindouism it was the same it means the original vedism brahman didn't call the atributes or the names as "the gods"
because if you take the naked logic you can not call a "god " as something which belong to God, do you say to your hand "hey man how are you today?" no because your hand belong to a man but he s not a man , only manifeste your action , odion' s action,like vishnu or shiva manifeste the caracteristic and the action of Brahman,the great one.
it s pure logic. and maybe i would like to know about the sanskrit grammar how you use the singular and the plural maybde it s easy to confuse between them.
odion yes of course there s common point with the 99 names of Allah but i think maybe at the origin in hindouism it was the same it means the original vedism brahman didn't call the atributes or the names as "the gods"
because if you take the naked logic you can not call a "god " as something which belong to God, do you say to your hand "hey man how are you today?" no because your hand belong to a man but he s not a man , only manifeste your action , odion' s action,like vishnu or shiva manifeste the caracteristic and the action of Brahman,the great one.
it s pure logic. and maybe i would like to know about the sanskrit grammar how you use the singular and the plural maybde it s easy to confuse between them.
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Have you read the Rig Veda? Unless you have, it's only your opinion, and not one that scholars hold.
That depends on your interpretation of God, how they relate to it, and whether or not they are sapient.
As soon as you say "You cannot call [something] God", we disagree.
Either way, your argument is not one that really.. works to me. It's like saying "You can't call Allah as Ar-Rahman, even if he is!".
No, I am not a Hindu. I'm a Buddhist Atheist.
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Brahman is Not the Great God.
The word "Brahm" means "Who Creates" or "Who is ever busy in Creating every thing".
The Great God has given this management of Creation to Brahman and the Great God himself is free from everything and ever must in his own tune or tune of love.
I don't know about other Hindus what do they think,
But according of the holy books of hinduism they are callad as DEVTAS not God's.
DEVTAS means ANGELS.
It is very difficult to understand any Script which is written 200 years back.
So, How can we sure about that we can understand the script which is written 2000 years back.
Holy Scripts are never wrong, Wrong is our understandings,
Gernally people use to fit the script written in holy books in order to match their current life styles for their convinence of being religious.
I can understand.
_/\_Chinu.
thank you chinu
but Brahma one of the God of the trimurti is the one who create
and a manifestation of BRAHMAN who is the great one?
you said they dont call it gods but devas
but how they call vishnu , shiva, the major God? do they call them devas?
or devas only for 33 minor Gods?
yes 2000 years ago i am afraid maybe Men changed the text by misunderstanding i dont know
but Brahma one of the God of the trimurti is the one who create
and a manifestation of BRAHMAN who is the great one?
you said they dont call it gods but devas
but how they call vishnu , shiva, the major God? do they call them devas?
or devas only for 33 minor Gods?
yes 2000 years ago i am afraid maybe Men changed the text by misunderstanding i dont know