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Gods that exist solely in the minds of religious believers always share the believers' opinions.darkpenguin said:why is it wrong in gods eyes?
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Gods that exist solely in the minds of religious believers always share the believers' opinions.darkpenguin said:why is it wrong in gods eyes?
When did you choose to be straight? What factors went into your decision?Anade said:No one HAS to be gay, you're not born gay or straight. I believe it's a choice.
Anade said:Then they are ignoring the words of the Bible.
darkpenguin said:i didn't say anybody HAS to be gay and yes it is free will but if the gods of the religions that think it is wrong made people with free will then it is wrong for those gods of those faiths to frown upon such behaviour. 'gods' gave us freedom for a reason, to use it!
Jensa said:Did you wake up one day after puberty and go "You know what? I think I'm going to be straight!"?
dawny0826 said:Hi.
I'm a Christian and I happen to be a bisexual woman.
My God, for the record, is the God of Abraham, Jesus Christ.
These are my thoughts...
God didn't intend for us to have the freedoms of the flesh that we have today. You have to understand this. Man was placed on earth to serve and worship God...not vice versa. And we were initially made perfect.
Adam and Eve had a choice to make, in Eden. They had the choice to either obey or disobey. They disobeyed and THEY BROUGHT sin upon the world by their actions. And thus, the battle of the flesh began.
We very much have the freedom to live our lives as we want to. But that doesn't mean, from a biblical standpoint that our decisions align with what God would have for our lives. We can make justifications for our actions but in the end there is only right or wrong. There is no inbetween.
From personal experience...I was very much born with an attraction to women and that's been a part of me foras long as I can remember. For many years, I struggled with that. For many years, my internal conflict was a factor that fueled my REBELLION against God and the church.
I met my husband during a time in my life where I was totally open to meeting SOMEONE to spend the rest of my life with...gender not important. But it was my husband that won me over and I took our vows seriously before I became a Christian.
I'm still attracted to woman. I'm wired that way. That's not going to change.
BUT...I've made a choice based upon my personal religious convictions and beliefs to not act again upon certain desires. Are the desires there? Of course. I'm human.
God didn't bestow upon us sinful notions. Man brought that upon themselves. God has given us a way to be redeemed from our blemishes but blemishes exist because of the fall. We have choices to make. We're born into this world with "prewired" behaviours and traits that we didn't necessarily choose for ourselves but we are still held accountable for the choices that we make throughout our lives.
And God isn't forcing anyone to follow Him and follow His laws.
I believe that God did give us freedom to exercise and His plan was for us to utlize that freedom to find our way back to Him.
We're also supposed to LOVE everyone...regardless of who they are and what they choose to do...when we LOVE we fulfill all God's laws...just thought I'd throw that in there. Whether homosexuality is an "abomination" or not...my children are being taught to LOVE everyone. :hug:
Any reason a semi-naked man was with Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane? Mark 14:51-52.Anade said:Because God planned for a man and a woman to be together, not a man and a man or a woman and a woman.
darkpenguin said:why is it wrong in gods eyes?
Anade said:Then we wouldn't have free will.
You seem to be insinuating that God intended for us to be gay...? That's weird, because in my Bible, it says something to the effect of homosexuals will not enter the kingdom.
My thougts exactly. All of the money, time and energy that is spent trying to control people's behaviors can be used for more practical things....such as helping out the poor and starving.sojourner said:Why are people so preoccupied with who's sleeping with whom? A person's sexual identity is their business, and no amount of "Christian concern for the spiritual well-being of others" can mitigate either the privacy of the bedroom, or the sanctity of one's identity. To think otherwise is to disrespect those in whom we should be seeking and serving Christ.
Mister_T said:My thougts exactly. All of the money, time and energy that is spent trying to control people's behaviors can be used for more practical things....such as helping out the poor and starving.
Anade said:Then they are ignoring the words of the Bible.
Not to be rude, but too bad.Anade said:Then they are ignoring the words of the Bible.
Real Sorceror said:Not to be rude, but too bad.
:clapWhy are people so preoccupied with who's sleeping with whom? A person's sexual identity is their business, and no amount of "Christian concern for the spiritual well-being of others" can mitigate either the privacy of the bedroom, or the sanctity of one's identity.