Melchizedek99
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Yep, suffering is unavoidable.
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Why do some Atheists say Christianity is harmful?
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Yep, suffering is unavoidable.
In my experience, pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
Audie
Veteran Member
Winner frubal
If you truly believe that, then you have a lot to learn indeed.
I understand that the Vulgate was originally written some 80 odd years after the first bible was published, there are now several different versions of it.
There are no copies if the original christian bie so it is impossible to tell if Christianity is the "true form" of Christianity.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Way to miss the point.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
There is a difference between acknowledging something is unavoidable on the one hand and glorifying it on the other.
Try replying to point made instead of the one you imagine to be made.
How do you know that Catholicism is any more legitimate, true or OG than Orthodox Christianity, or any of the so-called heresies declared as such by the Nicean Council, or Judaism or Gnostic Christianity?
From the Orthodox perspective they are as OG as Catholicism once was, and it was Rome that went astray. From the heretic view, it was Nicea that exerted undue political pressure. From the Judaic, Christianity itself is a mistake. From the Gnostic, Pauline Christianity is just misguided.
To even decide that there ever was or still is a true, "OG" form of Christianity, you have to first make several arbitrary decisions. You have to decide that Christianity should not have remained a part of Judaism; that either Paul or the early Gnostics must have been correct; and whether, why and which among the several Pauline Christianity Churches that exist today is somehow deserving of being called "OG" despite Paul himself pretty much saying that his view was an innovation.
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Wow, this thread blew up. @Melchizedek99 you sure know how to get people talking. Lol
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
yeah well...
Making extra provocative, hypocritical and ironic posts always is a good way to make people respond on a forum
Who's been telling you such lies? My life is full of meaning but that meaning is not entrenched in much edited 1700 year old book *Mod edit*
No need to assume, *Mod edit* and as mentioned, my life is full of meaning, not faith and hope but real life meaning
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If you think forming loving relationships is only about procreation, then I feel even sadder for you than I did for your first response to me in Post #174.
I know we don't agree on this, but I am utterly certain that this is the only life I will get, and I intend to make as much of it as I can. And if you think there's a heaven, and you get an afterlife, you might remember this: it'll still be you. As I said to you before, the terrible harm that Christian belief has done to so many people IN THIS LIFE is, for me, the top of my list when answering this thread's question -- why do I think Christianity is harmful. I think so because I've seen too much of that harm. Christians have seen it too, but can't bring themselves to stop doing it.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Marriage isn't necessary for procreation, so this post makes no sense.
Audie
Veteran Member
Its clear that you've matters of
your own that could be far better dealt
with than by attacking people, institutions,
and understandings you know nothing about.
Science has demonstrated that homosexuality is not common, but entirely natural. It occurs in many, many species. Almost 10% of male sheep express only homosexual interests. In fact, apparent homosexual individuals are known from all of the traditional domestic species, from sheep, cattle and horses to cats, dogs and budgerigars. If God is the author of all of nature, then I put it to you that nature itself is witness that it is NOT a "very shameful and disgusting act in the eyes of God."
Here is a brief list of some of the other species in which homosexual behaviour is observed:
Birds
Black swans
Albatrosses
Blue ducks
Ibises
Mallards
Penguins
Vultures
Pigeons
Mammals
Amazon dolphins
American bisons
Bats (more than 20 varieties!)
Bottlenose dolphins
Elephants
Giraffes
Marmots
Lions
Polecats
Primates
Bonobos
Chimpanzees
Gibbons
Gorillas
Orangutans
Monkeys
Japanese macaques
Sheep
Spotted hyenas
Reptiles
Lizards
Tortoises
Insects and arachnids
Dragonflies
Fruit flies
Bed bugs
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PureX
Veteran Member
I suspect there are a great many people of all kinds that feel much the same way about their first sexual encounters. For any number of reasons. If humans were perfect what would they need God for?
Audie
Veteran Member
What does god- belief do but make
people feel guilty and afraid of being
tortured forever for the "sin" of being what
they are?
George Washington
*banned*
It provides a common set of morals, that other followers can express without worrying about being taken advantage of.
For instance, I can be humble, thoughtful and kind to others who share my values, without worrying about them trying to one-up me or push me aside as being "weak". They won't do that to me, whereas someone who views aggression and 'force' as a positive trait would walk all over me - forcing me to either abandon what I believe is good, or force me to be miserable be getting walked on.
George Washington
*banned*
Also, my atheist peers have no qualms with stealing small trinkets or things from other people if they think it is of little value. I don't have to worry about that so much around faithful Christians - because of the shared morals.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
That’s rather melodramatic.