Who was Jesus? He was the Messiah.....that is who he was.....NOT God.
I have Him as one of the two Kings from the east.
When people say this:
“Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! - Revelation 6:16
They are going to know that Jesus is God too.
I know it now.
It seems basic, if not elementary, to me.
You seem smart D, I think you'll figure it out.
The Father is God.....the Lord Jesus is not.
Sorry.....you have proven nothing.
I think he did a pretty good job.
But it's tough finding it in the Gospels.
Because Jesus was on a TOP SECRET mission at that time.
None of the rulers of that age understood it either, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
"Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ. - Matthew 16
Note that flesh and blood cannot reveal this thing, only the Father that is in heaven.
If Jesus didn't want the stiff necked people of those days to know that He was the Christ, He certainly would not have wanted them to know that He was also the God of the Old Testament. But that's exactly who He was.
And Jesus IS the "Rock."
Look again at what Paul said, and then tie it in with Isaiah and Revelation..
Paul told the Old Time Jews that the Rock was Christ.
"For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them,
and the Rock was Christ. -
1 Corinthians 10
That means that the pre-incarnate Jesus was the burning bush which spoke to Moses, and it was Jesus who parted the Red sea and wrote the Ten Commandments into stone tablets..
Three times in the Book of Isaiah, the God of the Old Testament says: "I am the first and I am the last;
“This is what the Lord says—
Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.
Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it.
Let him declare and lay out before me
what has happened since I established my ancient people,
and what is yet to come—
yes, let them foretell what will come.
Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” - Isaiah 44
(And on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it)
When John meets Jesus again in Chapter 1 of Revelation, he's presented with the same greeting. "I am the first and the last:
"When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades. - Revelation 1
He died.
And behold He is alive forevermore.
No greater love can be had than to lay down one's life for His friends.
“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you.
That we love one another,
as He has loved us.