What If You're Wrong

[thomas t]

Here is a popular video featuring Richard Dawkins which has almost 60 000 likes:

I know, many atheists here don't agree with Richard Dawkins.

Anyway, since thousands of Youtube likes speak a clear language, I thought I could make it a thread.

Whan asked what if he is wrong with the Christian God, he replied we could all be wrong about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for instance. Or about the great Juju at the bottom of the sea.

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

If we are wrong about the creator if there is one... it's like being wrong about the host of where we are invited. It does matter.

Please note there was a quite similar thread recently: why is it important to "Believe"..?, it was focused more on salvation, if I understood it right.

 

[ChristineM]

If im wrong in wrong, i can live with that. How about you, can you live contently if you are proven wrong?

 

[Audie]

Who cares what "Dawkins" says?

Turn the question around.

What of you theists with your huge investment
in religion, what if you are wrong?

No god, no supernatural, no afterlife?
Is that ever seriously considered?

Its of more immediate and obvious importance
than the Pascals ger you are offering.

You get one life, and to waste so much of it on
nonsense-?

Does this get even 39 seconds of serious
thought?

 

[Heyo]

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

Yep. My thoughts after that "answer". (But he made it funny.)

He could have mentioned Pascals Wager (and why it's fallacious) to at least address the philosophical background. (But I guess he was out of time and had to fit his answer into 2 minutes.)

 

[Revoltingest]

No worries about being wrong.
Nuthin I can do about it.
Everyone faces this.

 

[exchemist]

Here is a popular video featuring Richard Dawkins which has almost 60 000 likes:

I know, many atheists here don't agree with Richard Dawkins.

Anyway, since thousands of Youtube likes speak a clear language, I thought I could make it a thread.

Whan asked what if he is wrong with the Christian God, he replied we could all be wrong about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for instance. Or about the great Juju at the bottom of the sea.

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

If we are wrong about the creator if there is one... it's like being wrong about the host of where we are invited. It does matter.

Please note there was a quite similar thread recently: why is it important to "Believe"..?, it was focused more on salvation, if I understood it right.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Since we have no way of determining whether or not there is a God, claiming that it is a really important question to get right does not help answer it. (I'm not watching any videos, by the way.)

 

[Vinayaka]

"What if" types of questions lie in fiction, or fantasy, not in logic. They are of little value. It's some hypothetical daydreaming.

 

[MikeF]

Here is a popular video featuring Richard Dawkins which has almost 60 000 likes:

I know, many atheists here don't agree with Richard Dawkins.

Anyway, since thousands of Youtube likes speak a clear language, I thought I could make it a thread.

Whan asked what if he is wrong with the Christian God, he replied we could all be wrong about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for instance. Or about the great Juju at the bottom of the sea.

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

If we are wrong about the creator if there is one... it's like being wrong about the host of where we are invited. It does matter.

Please note there was a quite similar thread recently: why is it important to "Believe"..?, it was focused more on salvation, if I understood it right.

Whether one is an atheist or not, I can not understand why one would follow or worship the god depicted in the Tanahk and the Gospels. Based on maturity level displayed by the god described alone I would reject it. Give these books a careful reading with a critical eye.

 

[George-ananda]

I am not even an atheist but I side with Dawkins on this particular point. If the afterlife hinged on 'beliefs' that would not be a just situation worthy of God given the limited information we are presented with.

I do not believe one's position on theological issues matter importantly but the quality of the heart and mind is what matters in the afterlife.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Here is a popular video featuring Richard Dawkins which has almost 60 000 likes:

I know, many atheists here don't agree with Richard Dawkins.

Anyway, since thousands of Youtube likes speak a clear language, I thought I could make it a thread.

Whan asked what if he is wrong with the Christian God, he replied we could all be wrong about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for instance. Or about the great Juju at the bottom of the sea.

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

If we are wrong about the creator if there is one... it's like being wrong about the host of where we are invited. It does matter.

Please note there was a quite similar thread recently: why is it important to "Believe"..?, it was focused more on salvation, if I understood it right.

No, because it assume a certain limited creator God, that cares about us being wrong. That is not given. IFF there is a Creator God, then it means that there is a Creator God and nothing more.

You assume that the host cares, but you haven't proved that.

 

[McBell]

Here is a popular video featuring Richard Dawkins which has almost 60 000 likes:

I know, many atheists here don't agree with Richard Dawkins.

Anyway, since thousands of Youtube likes speak a clear language, I thought I could make it a thread.

Whan asked what if he is wrong with the Christian God, he replied we could all be wrong about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for instance. Or about the great Juju at the bottom of the sea.

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

If we are wrong about the creator if there is one... it's like being wrong about the host of where we are invited. It does matter.

Please note there was a quite similar thread recently: why is it important to "Believe"..?, it was focused more on salvation, if I understood it right.

Imagine how much worse it will be for theists.
Of all the proposed deities, you pick one and hope and pray you chose the correct one.
What if you are wrong?
not your belief in god, but wrong in which god you chose?

and any "deity" that falls for Pascals Wager, is not worthy of the title.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Here is a popular video featuring Richard Dawkins which has almost 60 000 likes:

I know, many atheists here don't agree with Richard Dawkins.

Anyway, since thousands of Youtube likes speak a clear language, I thought I could make it a thread.

Whan asked what if he is wrong with the Christian God, he replied we could all be wrong about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for instance. Or about the great Juju at the bottom of the sea.

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

If we are wrong about the creator if there is one... it's like being wrong about the host of where we are invited. It does matter.

Please note there was a quite similar thread recently: why is it important to "Believe"..?, it was focused more on salvation, if I understood it right.

Statistically, some of us will be wrong. And that's okay.

Because eventually and ultimately, from my perspective, all of us will right.

 

[PureX]

Who cares what "Dawkins" says?

Turn the question around.

What of you theists with your huge investment
in religion, what if you are wrong?

No god, no supernatural, no afterlife?
Is that ever seriously considered?

Its of more immediate and obvious importance
than the Pascals ger you are offering.

You get one life, and to waste so much of it on
nonsense-?

Does this get even 39 seconds of serious
thought?

I think the point of the question is that if the atheist is wrong, there may well be dire consequences. Whereas if the theist is wrong, there would be no consequence at all.

I don't ascribe to the theist's threats, so either way is OK with me. But that's the 'argument' that some theists present.

 

[SalixIncendium]

If im wrong in wrong, i can live with that. How about you, can you live contently if you are proven wrong?

Is there anything productive in proving @thomas t wrong?

 

[stvdv]

Here is a popular video featuring Richard Dawkins which has almost 60 000 likes:

I like the video
What If You're Wrong

To me, it is not important whether or not one is wrong believing in what one believes
More important it is, that one learns to become a loving person, with or without religion

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

While you're right that he didn't answer the question posed to him, what he did was far more important. In my opinion he exposed the myopic and sophomoric thinking of any person claiming that they have "found the way," Which paves the way toward understanding that the "What if you're wrong?" question is moot - because there are any number of other things to also be wrong about. Like the "great Juju at the bottom of the sea." WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT THE GREAT JUJU TOM?!?!!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!? You see there? You see how STUPID I sounded? Yeah... that's how it is.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Who cares what "Dawkins" says?

Turn the question around.

What of you theists with your huge investment
in religion, what if you are wrong?

No god, no supernatural, no afterlife?
Is that ever seriously considered?

Its of more immediate and obvious importance
than the Pascals ger you are offering.

You get one life, and to waste so much of it on
nonsense-?

Does this get even 39 seconds of serious
thought?

Dear Audie

This made me laugh, because I was just about to say that I cannot see myself discovering that I have been wrong and thinking: I really wish I had spent my life on worldly achievements and aimed at acquiring influence, power and a whole bunch of possessions to tie me down with; I so regret not having been greedier and more self-centred.

Also, I have never heard anyone say that they believe in God in case there is one. It does not make much sense to me to turn this question in that manner.

Humbly
Hermit

 

[stvdv]

In my opinion, that didn't answer the question.

My Master told us many, many times "Many people ask questions like 'who are you' ... better they find out 'Who Am I' for themselves first. Knowing the answer to that question will answer all other questions". Considering this, I think that the answer he gave was great.

 

[ChristineM]

Is there anything productive in proving @thomas t wrong?

Only as productive in him proving atheists wrong.

 

[Vinayaka]

Only as productive in him proving atheists wrong.

It's far easier just to be wrong all the time, and have everyone know it. "I'm wrong!"