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Trump could win

Heyo

Veteran Member
It's not only Trump who's on the ballot. There are also some Senate seats to be filled. Imagine Trump without Moscow Mitch and a GOP majority backing him.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
I agree. Biden is letting this thing slip from his hands, and if Dems don't start acknowledging, owning, and condemning riots the Dems will get an election day whomping. If Biden doesn't start doing something he will lose.
We will get the country we deserve and it won't be Biden's fault.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I believe the cards have been dealt already, they do whatever it takes to calm the masses. But Trump is not calming the masses. He's doing his best to alarm the masses, and point to an enemy.
After all, the game must go on ... or as the saying goes "Panem et circenses"
Except the right has greatly undermined social services to the "undeserving poor" and "welfare queens." There is no more panem.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Your quotes got entangled in my quotes, hence the empty reply
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
We will get the country we deserve and it won't be Biden's fault.
I personally think Biden is a crap choice but vastly the superior choice over Trump.
If Biden still has a chance to save his ship, but Dems and Libs have been reluctant to accept the nation is starting to percieve them as weak in regards to riots. Amd thats because theyve been largely downplaying and dismissing them, acting as of the bit that did happen doesn't really matter because it's not as bad as RW media portrays it. Amd it comes off as them being reluctant to criticize their own (much like how the Republicans refuses to apologize for their crap behavior) (and yes, they get away with not doing so because they are better at politics than Dems).
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I don't have much faith in polls. The polls were wrong in the last election.

Actually, the polling was overall pretty much right. What was wrong was how the media interpreted the polls. Most journalists don't know a whole lot about polling, statistics, and probability, and sometimes it really shows. One of those times was 2016. The stories they put out gave people the false impression that Ms Clinton had things all but sewn up.

Everyone in America should be reading Nate Silver's 538 website during election years. Generally speaking, it's one of the best sources of information on what the polling really means.

EDIT: As it happens, I made an error or two in this post that I have tried to clear up in post #90.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
A 4 year term is a long time for one so old.
He'll be the oldest sitting President in history,
So we're also electing Harris as President.
People should give more attention to considering
her record & agendas.

And before anyone says it, yes...I am a racist.
I do believe that a black candidate should also
have her record & views critically examined.
Oh, I'm sexist too.
You just want somebody to say it, so I will: "It is not racist or sexist to believe that black candidates, or women, should have their records and views critically examined as part of choosing who to vote for."
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I just want to be on record.

Trump is not going to win.
Biden has more support from the Democratic party than Hillary
Trump has lost more support from the Republican party than he had in 2016
The polls show the independents supporting Biden 60% to 40% Trump consistently.
All Trump is doing is solidifying his base. Without the independents or discouraged democrats his base is not large enough to win.
You give us hope....and we hope you're right.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Absolutely he could, especially since polls numbers tend to tighten the closer we get to the actual elections. I don't think this country could survive four more years of Trump because he would have the constraint of having to get reelected off him, so heaven knows what we would look like in 2024.
The one thing about which you can be absolutely certain -- it will not be the US as it's been known for some time (if it still even is).
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The "people" did not elect Trump in 2016.
Trump lost the Popular Vote.
The Electoral College appointed Trump President.
Well, that's how it works, isn't it?

In my view (and who cares what a Canadian thinks), it's time for the Electoral College to go the way of all other old things...
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Can Mr. Trump win? Let me put it this way. While it is normal for the race to tighten after the conventions, this is an extraordinary year. Here's why...

The country is in the deepest recession since the Great Depression. The deadliest pandemic since 1918 is raging out of control. There are nationwide civil protests against racism and police brutality involving 13 to 26 million people in the streets at one time or another. We have a president who is the most corrupt in memory. Ten million people are on the verge of being evicted from their homes. Two or three times that number are behind on their rent. Millions of people are reporting they don't have enough food to feed their families. Unemployment is over 10%. And the list goes on and on.

Yet, the president is within striking distance of winning the election. By all rights, he should be on the ropes by now, but instead, he's within striking distance.

So, yeah, Mr. Trump could win this one.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
The race has tightened up.Biden 49 percent Trump 47 percent.Trump could win this.
Yes, he could.
I dunno what that means about many US voters, but he could win.

And if he does it will affect us Brits, I reckon. Poor old Boris is going to have to slobber and pander up to him for yonks.

But World News will be more extraordinary, every day, I suppose. Good Luck......... honestly. Good Luck.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Most likely I won't vote. I don't support either.

That is the exact attitude that got Trump elected.

However, if you can't see a difference between Biden and Trump then you probably aren't qualified to vote anyway.

How does my statement say anything about my knowledge of their differences???

You stated you support neither.
Ther are night and day differences between Trump and Biden.
Since those differences are not enough for you to support one over the other, I stand by my comment.

No need for sarcasm.

I wasn't being sarcastic.
 
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