Idaho bans transgender person from athletics or changing gender of birth certificates

[Heyo]

I never heard that before. Where did you get that information?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I wasn't aware that neuropsychology was that advanced. I knew that that was a hypothesis but not that it has been confirmed. You don't happen to have a link to a relevant study?

PM me to remind me to find it. Im on my phone and it'll take me longer to find it on this.

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

The real issues. The tribal right is going for a wedge issues play in the face of a global pandemic they did nothing to prevent.

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Well - didn't the "right" (by this I mean Trump) call a state of emergency after one U.S. citizen became infected and he banned travel from China?

Didn't he do this while the media and Pelosi were claiming that the flu was worse than covid-19 and that people should still socialize and assemble for marches?

What do you believe the "right" should have done differently?

Hug infected Chinese immigrants in public like the Italian government encouraged?

How did that work out for them?

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

Idaho has passed legislation to prevent transgender person from participating in female athletics. The first state to do so. It also passed legislation to prevent transgender persons from changing the gender of their birth certificates. Two other states have passed similar legislation.

Idaho becomes first U.S. state to ban trans athletes

Good move.

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

It seems you are making this more complicated than need be. If someone has a puberty guided by estrogen, their body will basically be female regardlessof birth sex. It would be the opposite with testosterone. Thus, if a MtF is on testosterone blockers soon enkugh to not have a male puberty, and instead develops more like a demand for to estrogen, they will not have the advantages of those who had a puberty guided by testosterone and then later went on estrogen and testosterone blockers.

So you are arguing that only those transgendered person who , as minors, had their natural puberty suppressed and guided by invasive hormones should be allowed to compete?

A full-grown man who decides to take estrogen should not be allowed to compete?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So you are arguing that only those transgendered person who , as minors, had their natural puberty suppressed and guided by invasive hormones should be allowed to compete?

A full-grown man who decides to take estrogen should not be allowed to compete?

That does resolve the concerns for unfair advantages. And, do keep in mind, to me they are just games, society puts way too much emphasis in it, and beyond putting that fact out there I have no further interest in the subject, except to point out this demonstrates a need for early intervention with puberty as this early intervention typically improves outcome quality as far as socializing goes. Which tends tonimprove other areas of life as well.

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

That does resolve the concerns for unfair advantages. And, do keep in mind, to me they are just games, society puts way too much emphasis in it, and beyond putting that fact out there I have no further interest in the subject, except to point out this demonstrates a need for early intervention with puberty as this early intervention typically improves outcome quality as far as socializing goes. Which tends tonimprove other areas of life as well.

I agree with you about sports. I do not care for them.

However - I do believe that any competition should be fair.

That being said - abusing/experimenting on minors in order to level the playing-field - that's a deal breaker for me.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I agree with you about sports. I do not care for them.

However - I do believe that any competition should be fair.

That being said - abusing/experimenting on minors in order to level the playing-field - that's a deal breaker for me.

No one has promoted abuse.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Well - didn't the "right" (by this I mean Trump) call a state of emergency after one U.S. citizen became infected and he banned travel from China?

Didn't he do this while the media and Pelosi were claiming that the flu was worse than covid-19 and that people should still socialize and assemble for marches?

What do you believe the "right" should have done differently?

Hug infected Chinese immigrants in public like the Italian government encouraged?

How did that work out for them?

Ugh.

First of all, no, trump isn't "the Right". Second, read some relevant articles on non partisan websites some time. The whole article.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Holy stupid strawmen Batman!

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

No one has promoted abuse.

I consider any kind of hormonal replacement or medical experimentation on children to be abuse.

I hope to God I'm not the only one who thinks that.

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

Ugh.

First of all, no, trump isn't "the Right". Second, read some relevant articles on non partisan websites some time. The whole article.

Ok.

If you did not mean "Trump" when you said "the Right" - then what did you mean by "the Right"?

Who are these people and what could they have possibly done?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Ok.

If you did not mean "Trump" when you said "the Right" - then what did you mean by "the Right"?

Who are these people and what could they have possibly done?

I didn't say "the right", so strike one...

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I consider any kind of hormonal replacement or medical experimentation on children to be abuse.

I hope to God I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Well, fortunately we have medical professionals who spend years studying, and don't have to rely on the opinion of some ignorant rando on the internet.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I consider any kind of hormonal replacement or medical experimentation on children to be abuse.

I hope to God I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Plenty of us do not see medical intervention as abuse. When it comes to other people's lives, your beliefs and opinions don't get to overrule science and accepted medical practices.

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

I didn't say "the right", so strike one...

You go to great lengths to not answer my questions.

You actually said "the right" twice.

In Post #2 you said, "the tribal right" - I did not include your "tribal" descriptor when I referred to "the right" as Trump.

Nevertheless - you said "the right".

You also said "the Right" in Post #69 when you claimed that Trump wasn't "the Right".

How about we leave "strikes" to baseball and you answer my questions?

I will re-post them here -

"What do you believe the "right" should have done differently?

Hug infected Chinese immigrants in public like the Italian government encouraged?

How did that work out for them?"

"If you did not mean "Trump" when you said "the Right" - then what did you mean by "the Right"?

Who are these people and what could they have possibly done?"

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

Well, fortunately we have medical professionals who spend years studying, and don't have to rely on the opinion of some ignorant rando on the internet.

No amount of study by these "medical professionals" can change children into consenting adults.

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

Plenty of us do not see medical intervention as abuse.

More of us believe that it is.

When it comes to other people's lives, your beliefs and opinions don't get to overrule science and accepted medical practices.

How do you not see the hypocrisy in that statement?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You go to great lengths to not answer my questions.

You actually said "the right" twice.

In Post #2 you said, "the tribal right" - I did not include your "tribal" descriptor when I referred to "the right" as Trump.

Nevertheless - you said "the right".

You also said "the Right" in Post #69 when you claimed that Trump wasn't "the Right".

How about we leave "strikes" to baseball and you answer my questions?

I will re-post them here -

"What do you believe the "right" should have done differently?

Hug infected Chinese immigrants in public like the Italian government encouraged?

How did that work out for them?"

"If you did not mean "Trump" when you said "the Right" - then what did you mean by "the Right"?

Who are these people and what could they have possibly done?"

I didn't say "the right" at all. What I said was "the tribal right" which is very different. If you can't be bothered to read what people actually say, and wish to have a conversation based purely on what you imagine people say rather than what they actually say, I'll leave you to it.

Enjoy making up your silly strawmen to justify your martyr-lite fantasies. Goodbye.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

More of us believe that it is.

Here, have a claim of numerical superiority that I plucked from my fundament and will provide absolutely no justification for.