She sat out the anthem in protest. Her teacher said ‘go back to your country,’ students say

[SoyLeche]

Ah. So you see people protesting by "not standing" as right but people protesting "the not standing" as wrong.

People disrespecting a piece of cloth and a song are more “right” than someone attacking an individual who is standing in front of them, yes.

 

[We Never Know]

Basically. One is harming no one. The other is bordering on harming someone.

How is "go home" bordering harming them? It's nothing more that someone expressing their thoughts. They aren't saying I will send you there or make you go.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ah now we are starting to get on the same page. It's their right not to stand but then others should have the same rights to call them out and tell them to go back home but the problem is it doesn't work that way.

A teacher doesn't have that right though.
Imagine the chaos which would ensue if
they could castigate students for political
expression they disagree with.

 

[columbus]

Ah. So you see people protesting by "not standing" as right but people protesting "the not standing" as wrong.

Pretty much. Yeah.
Mind your own business. "Land of the free". That sort of thing.
Tom

 

[SoyLeche]

How is "go home" bordering harming them? It's nothing more that someone expressing their thoughts. They aren't saying I will send you there or make you go.

It’s a personal attack - not a general protest. It’s their right, but they are still jerks for exercising it.

 

[We Never Know]

People disrespecting a piece of cloth and a song are more “right” than someone attacking an individual who is standing in front of them, yes.

And that's it. As you just said people "disrespecting" a song or piece of cloth(American flag) is disrespecting many Americans and those Americans have the right to speak out.

 

[SoyLeche]

And that's it. As you just said people "disrespecting" a song or piece of cloth(American flag) is disrespecting many Americans and those Americans have the right to speak out.

Yes, they do. Doesn’t mean they aren’t jerks.

 

[We Never Know]

It’s a personal attack - not a general protest. It’s their right, but they are still jerks for exercising it.

Disrespecting the flag or anthem is a personal attack on Americans.
They just as well say your flag and anthem sux and means nothing to us even though we live here because now our life is better than it was.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes, they do. Doesn’t mean they aren’t jerks.

Then both should be considered jerks.

 

[SoyLeche]

Then both should be considered jerks.

If that’s how you feel, go ahead and consider them as such.

 

[SoyLeche]

I think someone attacking an individual is more of a jerk than someone disrespecting an idea, but you do you.

 

[Revoltingest]

And that's it. As you just said people "disrespecting" a song or piece of cloth(American flag) is disrespecting many Americans and those Americans have the right to speak out.

If the one speaking out is a teacher, & does
so with a vile insult against a student, the school
has a right to give that teacher the boot.

Everyone enjoys their rights...everyone wins.

 

[columbus]

Then both should be considered jerks.

But here's a big difference.
One is a kid and one an adult authority figure.

The standards are just plain different. Sorry if you think that's unfair.
Tom

 

[Cooky]

IMO the teacher was out of line but if you left your country to live a better life here, claim citizenship here, go to school here and receive free aid here,,, then show some respect and stand for the anthem. Evidently life wasn't good for you before you came here.

She sat out the anthem in protest. Her teacher said ‘go back to your country,’ students say.

Immigrants:
Don't try to change America... Let America change YOU..!

 

[SoyLeche]

Immigrants:
Don't try to change America... Let America change YOU..!

That’s why we are all living the Native American culture...

 

[ADigitalArtist]

If one should choose to go live in another country because where they live sux, expect to live the ways of that country they go to.

Or don't, protest and change the system for the better. Eff people who think migrants shouldn't be allowed to think there are things in the US that should change and participate in the same freedoms the rest of the country have, including protests, to enact change.

Especially change like compulsory displays of nationalism for kids which is gross and unnecessary.

 

[Cooky]

That’s why we are all living the Native American culture...

Ok... That's it..!

 

[Cooky]

Or don't, protest and change the system for the better. Eff people who think migrants shouldn't be allowed to think there are things in the US that should change and participate in the same freedoms the rest of the country have, including protests, to enact change.

Especially change like compulsory displays of nationalism for kids which is dumb.

I wouldn't try to be outspoken if I were an immigrant. You would..?

 

[SoyLeche]

I wouldn't try to be outspoken if I were an immigrant. You would..?

I wouldn’t be less outspoken than I wanted to be. I might be more outspoken than I am now though. Counterfactuals are difficult.

 

[Cooky]

I wouldn’t be less outspoken than I wanted to be.

I'd be very, very careful... I guess that's me being a good survivalist, from millions of years of survivors.

...I gotta wonder how some people made it this far.